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Dana Blouin

There we go. Boom. All right. What's going on everyone? Welcome back to another episode of Bangkok strange. I'm Dana Blouin as always joined by my co host Mike Summerville

Mike Somerville

greetings and aloha my man what's happening my friend

Dana Blouin

not much man. So guys, before we get into it Do not forget to subscribe to to the Bangkok's change podcast, iTunes, Google Play Spotify Stitcher, tune in Amazon podcast anywhere you get podcasts and definitely subscribe to the YouTube channel, where we do our live streams The day after the episode drops and we also do some blog type stuff that we're working on. That will be coming out soon. So a lot more content will be available on the YouTube channel and of course the podcast will always be the podcast. Absolutely. Yeah, we're looking forward to we've just been doing some great programs, some great topics. And but you know, like we were saying the other day, you know, what the hell does strange really mean? Yeah, like we say, Oh, yeah, it's Bangkok strange. And of course, people that Well, what's What's so strange about, you know, Bangkok, everything. So that was the thing. I mean, if again, if you guys don't know, the way that we define Bangkok is the best city in the world and the whole fucking world. So hands down, and some of the greatest Well, I was gonna say some of the greatest pizza the greatest deal say the greatest pizza would just pile up by the way underneath basically the sukumvit line Yeah, awesome. This Yeah, so sukumvit where you go down the escalator right there by the Dunkin Donuts best pizza on the planet and but we were talking about Okay, so yeah, it's we say strangers what is strange really mean? Yeah, strange. Bangkok strange. It's not a bad thing right? It's a positive thing to us right it's not Bangkok shitty. It's not Bangkok screwed up it's Bangkok strange because strange is really what makes it so freaking spectacular globally it because it's different strange is beautiful. Exactly. Right and strange is is the interesting things in life and you know, you don't get like I grew up in Pawtucket, Rhode Island. It's that would be pataka. shitty. Right. There's not protected string etiquette. Vanilla. Boring. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. You're from from Massachusetts. Yeah, very much the same thing. Yeah. I mean, in other words, it's like, well, what's different in Boston over the last 350 years? Not a goddamn lot. There's a lot more potholes. Yeah, they haven't patched the streets until they were brand new. All the all those cobblestones that Paul Revere hocked all over the place. Yeah, but he's the horse was shitting all over the street. It's like God, give me some of these friggin lanterns. I can't focus dude. Just sets up just set fire to one of these damn British boats. They're all wood. They'll sink real quick. Oh, no, I gotta let everybody know. Anyway, all history aside. So Bangkok strange. So what what makes it strange and there's so many things and where we just want to talk about in this episode. What is strange and why is it's such a good thing. I think for me probably the first thing that I noticed in the way that I describe it coming to Bangkok for the first time is it is old meets new. Yeah. But it's not like old antiquated, ridiculous useless anymore. It is that the Thai tradition of the way that their culture is, but also just the regular normal behaviors that you could definitely label as potentially strange, potentially something you dislike. Yeah. The Wait, wait, I'll give you a great example. You're walking down the street, there's a hole in the street. And from the tie perspective, it's like yeah, there's a hole in the street. Don't walk into the goddamn straight. And how many buddies Have you been walking? You know, from the west? Or let's say for the sake of argument, Mary? Oh, my God, they need to cover that up. Somebody's gonna assume I say yeah, it's not to be said for personal accountability. Dude, how about this don't get shit faced. Don't walk into the goddamn hole. Indeed, you know. And so I think that you know, if your guys like you and me, you appreciate that stuff. So maybe label this strange, but it's like, no, that's friggin cool. Yeah, you know, I mean, I really like that part about it. And and then to the new you're walking past you're walking down the sidewalk. You walk past this hole that you know, presumably should have documentation all over it. Right. And then you walk into a mall, where you can buy a Jaguar a Porsche at a McLaren on the sixth floor? Yeah. Or have amazing food at a food court for $4 on the seventh floor. Go sit in a movie theater in a couch that is about an hour and a half old. Yeah, with your loved one for for like 10 bucks for like 10 bucks. Great movie. Epic sound. Yeah. Right. And you're like one of 17 people in the whole theater. Yeah, it's the other thing about the old and the new together is that you'll see your be a brand new shopping mall. Yeah. And there's a 200 year old temple next to right, exactly right. And they use painkillers. Yeah, worshipping that day, and they coexist. And it's, you know, the temples are really part of the landscape anywhere you go in time. Yeah. And yeah, it's kind of like when because we both grew up in New England the the way you see like these old colonial church for sure. You know, on the landscape with less child rape, yeah, going on. No judgment, no judgment on Catholic Catholics But

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no, my hometown, the oldest church in still in use in the United States, the Old North Church and hang him. Yeah, no, I mean, because again, you guys got to remember that like where we grew up. I mean, that's where the country started. Yeah, like Boston and Philadelphia. There were a couple signatures that occurred in both those cities. That are the reason why people could pretty much you know, walk around in the side of the street with a gun in their pocket and Rhode Island. We got the First Baptist Church. The Quakers, you know, yeah, Rhode Island was what it was founded, essentially, because there wasn't enough religious freedom in Massachusetts. Ah, yes. Oh, great. So they bolted in started Rhode Island. Um, you know, it but yeah, the the temples are very much part of the landscape part of the lexicon here in Thailand. And a big part of the the city. Mm hmm. Right. And, you know, of course, everyone comes here on vacation, they all want to go to Walpole. I want to go to a water room, Grand Palace. Yeah, all these places, because they're in the Grand Palace is in the middle of the city surrounded by parks, and you know, you're a hop, skip, and a jump away from, you know, Chinatown and all these other things. And what's so awesome about that is yes, you can do those things. And quite frankly, if you're coming to Thailand for the first time, I encourage you to totally do them absolutely

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be a

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tourist for a week be a tourist for, you know, as much as it just like, feels comfortable. You're gonna read stories about being taken advantage of, or they're gonna,

Dana Blouin

well, Don't be an idiot. Exactly.

Mike Somerville

At the end of the day, I said this on my podcast the other day, it's like when I used to do life coaching or executive business coaching for these guys that were CEOs for like, literally fortune 100 companies. I mean, we go through this thing or whatever. And then I would, you know, they would get really in the mood, they'd be looking at it, and they would say, Oh, yeah, Mike, give me the next piece of advice, or whatever, I tell you what, here's a great tip for you. Don't be an idiot. So it's so the thing you hear a lot is people complain about these tooktook scams, like a tow truck driver will pull up and be like, Hey, I'll give you a free tour. And then he takes you all these places and tries to force you to buy jewelry shop or something. If you were in New York City and a cab driver came up to you was like, hey, jump in. I'll give you a free tour. He would never get in that car. Or you probably would You're the same jackass. They're gonna do it over here. It gets in the tooktook. Yeah, so don't get in the tooktook. Now to be fair, I can totally empathize with people that go to the the Grand Palace or they go to walk Po, some guy standing outside, you know, there's, there's a sucker born every minute, right? And to take advantage of, and they say to you, what do they say?

Unknown Speaker

Oh, it's closed today. Another.

Mike Somerville

So, you know, there's something to be said. But again,

Unknown Speaker

like, just because some random person tells you that, don't you go to a tourist spot anywhere in the world? Right? If you're in if you're on the Freedom Trail, embosser right. Or you're you're walking by the palace in Bangkok, or you're on the shopzilla Jose in Paris. Someone's gonna want to take advantage Exactly. Yeah, right. Don't be that idiot. You know, do your research. Talk to someone who's been had talked to Mike, talk to me. Bangkok streams@gmail.com. Absolutely

Mike Somerville

right. Check us out on Facebook, check us out on

Unknown Speaker

Twitter, Twitter, YouTube, MX, we'll have some tourist related content or some stuff that tourists can vibe off of pretty soon up on Twitter. And then people don't want to transition to you know, people that don't want to be tourists anymore. But to be fair, it's like you and I were here for the first time before and potentially someone walked up to us and said, Yeah, the palace is closed today. And I was like, No, it's not a kiss my ass. I checked the West frickin people that just walked inside of it over there, you know? Literally 10 meters away. Now, to be fair, if you're female, and you're over here, and it's friggin hot, and you've got super tight shorts on your shoulders are showing that and some woman comes up to you and tries to sell you a shawl. Yeah, you got to friggin buy it

Unknown Speaker

Well, no. Cuz they'll give it to you inside for free. Ah,

Unknown Speaker

good point. That is a good point. Yeah, you can like basically rent them for free. Yeah, you just walk up. It's 100 bucks upon Yeah. And you get they give you a pair of elephant pants.

Mike Somerville

Yeah. Or idiot pants.

Unknown Speaker

Don't wear elephant pants outside a situation where you absolutely have to. Never, ever do this. If you live in a town where basically everyone thinks that Thailand is Taiwan.

Unknown Speaker

Yeah. Are they?

Unknown Speaker

Are they spelled with a T? And they're Asian? Or they speak Taiwanese here exactly. Are they think it's a third world country? Yeah. Buy them a pair of these fucking elephant pants. Yeah, bring them home and be like, oh my god

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traditional tie off all the ties.

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Go to the mall. Every student gets issued to parents since junior high and you should wear them every single day. In fact, do this. Go to school with these. Tell everyone that your friends had been to Thailand did your ethnic Lee friggin just

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acknowledge this rockin a seashell necklace.

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If you're a white person grow some Dropbox flip

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flops at every event only flip

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flops tank top with a beer logo on it. And stop showering.

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Stop Shop and then you'll end up a kopargaon or

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Coby true

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I love I love how science actually, you know making that's the backpacker universe right? kasan. Roman is like, but again, you could walk to the Khao San Road from the Grand Palace. Exactly. So you can essentially go from the, this cultural center of the city to a rave within like a 10 minute walk. Yeah. And, you know, one of the things that we've been talking about doing is basically getting out in Bangkok because now that we have the YouTube channel and stuff and you know, again, to be fair, I mean, the reason this, this podcast is well known and successful is because you started it with Woody. Yeah. And again, I'm just really honored to be part of it. But we're growing it in a different directions, which is really neat. It's really fun for both of us. And you know, we've also got the time and the passion for it. But what we want to do is, you know, specifically to the the topic we're talking about today about what is strange, so you want to go out into Bangkok, where a lot of people have already been Yeah, people have already been to Casa and especially now right kasandra is is much different dead. Yeah. Because they took and they additionally they revamped the crap out of it. Yeah, it looks like a friggin strip mall. Could be you know, oh, yeah. But I mean, in other words, it's not like, for example, one of the things that you could always buy there, right, PhD? Yeah, can't get that anymore. Now, I can't get these spaces fees. Fake paper can't get your can't get your American driver's license. So I kind of wanted to get a marriage license there you know, for the various reasons of getting Gracie over here. But I guess I have to do that legally used to be able to buy American driver's license really bad fake on Khao San Road for like 10 bucks. plastic. So I tried to buy they got mad at me. So I tried to buy a university ID a tie University ID and they were like pissy did not they'll sell you a Harvard idea right but Thomas on Whoa, no, no, no. Come on. Now. Man. You're like across an ally. Yeah, look it there's got to be some level of integrity in our home country. Yeah. All you other people. Screw you guys. Don't let the house go on. But yes, kasan used to be but you can still buy the they still sell the gas to the laughing gas. Really? So they'll still nitrus it's not Yeah, they sell nitrus balloons there. Okay, so you'll see a guy holding up like a balloon and selling the balloons for like, 10 bucks. 10 bucks. That's awesome. I mean, you know, again, like there's a sucker born every minute, you know? And and to be fair, you know, I gotta tell you that like I've gone to countries for the first time. And I've been I don't know if I've been a victim of these, but I've done this sort of thing. And it's like, okay, yeah, I've been like part of the experience. I'll also tell you though, that like I went to Barcelona for the first time and I've been there like three or four times. And the first time before I went there, of course, I googled it. And I looked in YouTube and all these beating Yahoo. I didn't I Bing did actually because I knew I could get to the source.

Dana Blouin

I asked Jeeves,

Unknown Speaker

I did. I thought I might actually, you know, DuckDuckGo it

Unknown Speaker

necessarily a web crawler, web crawler.

Unknown Speaker

What was the other one?

Unknown Speaker

A dogpile dog file, bitch, you know it. So anyway, so I read it and it was like, Oh my god, whatever you do watch out for the pickpockets and they're gonna steal your money, you know, down Barcelona, I mean, historical city. Picture Columbus waving at everybody from the top of it. And

Unknown Speaker

who Columbus a fucking horrible human being.

Unknown Speaker

It's interesting when people talk, take talk about Thanksgiving. Yeah. Which of course was started, you know, when I grew up, and they're like, Oh, yeah, the, you know, the natives came in and the pilgrims were there and they embraced each other. After a significant amount of raping and pillaging occurs. All my Italian American friends will argue, oh, Columbus, a hero. He didn't even fucking discover America. I never stepped foot on the West Indies, right?

Unknown Speaker

Yeah,

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he raped and pillaged his way through like no, no, that's that's propaganda anti anti Italian propaganda. Like, this is 1920 and he

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came into Spain. Yeah, this

Unknown Speaker

is Italian is it? Yeah, it is employed by a Spain or Portugal one of the two. What do you ever use this? surety? No. What do you call those companies that they funded? Like the Yeah. Anyway, so I'm in there and and and what happens is you'll walk down this main road. And these guys will have these sort of spinning things with lights and they'll have like a like a rubber band.

Unknown Speaker

Shoot it up in the air and khasan

Unknown Speaker

and doesn't count okay. It's slowly folks to the ground and as a tourist, what do you do? You look up at this thing as is floating to the ground and what is that guy doing as you're walking up to him? Hey, can you park Absolutely. But again, I did this I walked down the street. I walked down at four in the afternoon and walked at eight in the morning and I walked it at like 10 3011 at night and I never once because I'm not a fucking idiot so same thing in Carlson I've never been never had any issues in college. Yeah. I did however once see a couple two white people. mm kinda girl in the Burger King at the top of Khao San Road at least two in the morning. Okay, this girl decided that was a good time to try to give this guy a blowjob

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inside the Burger King

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inside the burger in the booth. Right and that I don't so, but they were also sitting. So if you look at the second floor of the Birkin is all the glass. They were sitting there. Now luckily She was too drunk. They just left one of the clubs. Yeah, she was too drunk to figure out what was going on and he was too drunk to know what was going on. So nothing but because she was like trying to get his pants on done and literally in English like I just want to suck your dick.

Unknown Speaker

Oh, and you're listening to that because you're up there.

Unknown Speaker

I'm at the next table.

Unknown Speaker

Let me tell you some. I mean, of course, I was like, like, Wait a second.

Unknown Speaker

I love Thailand and I get my phone. I've never

Unknown Speaker

seen a white girl do that. I've heard that the ones locally but here's the all kidding aside. Don't do shit like that. Yeah, Thailand, so don't be that asshole. There is a level of respect here. Yeah, that is different than in the United States. Yeah. And cultural thing too. It's like the same thing. Like we I think we're gonna do an episode about dating, like a whole episode on dating, but even if you're out with a bar girl, lady that you paid for her time, it doesn't give you free rein to grope her in public like make out with her in a mall. Because you think you're paying her work. I'm not go down. She will like push you away.

Unknown Speaker

No, PDA is here. Oh,

Unknown Speaker

I mean, look, you know, hold hands. Sure. Grace, you know, no kissing. Okay, honey, I'll talk to you later. You know, the top of the head on the chip whatever pattern in the ass you know, stripper trek? Oh, wait, no, that's a different country, sir.

Unknown Speaker

Middle East Oh my god.

Unknown Speaker

Yeah, where they really respect women. Oh my god. So but yeah, like, that's one of the things is cultural. Like even like, like you would not see like I've been thousands of times on the BTS in the public transit of the train. Never seen anyone like making out kissing like, late night on the train. Nothing like that. And if you do, the people around them will let you know. daggers come out of their eyes It is so it's the equivalent of walking onto the BTS and taking all your clothes off and taking a shipment round. It is just so obtuse, yeah, disrespectful, you know, kind of thing. So I mean, there are plenty of things you can do here and be you know, be in a probe. I mean, you can go to potty and you can get completely drunk and like fall down on the pitch. Yeah, but don't do that. And then like try and touch a Thai girl's head. Yeah. She's even padded like walking shame patio. Yeah, like you can go in the club and all types of shits happening Mom, you take a girl out of the club, and it's very different game. Yes, until you get to wherever your destination is. And it can be a little weird, because let's face it in the United States, you get completely shit faced drunk. And what do you do? You go into the nearest Burger King, and you suck your boyfriend's coffee?

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Or tried or tried

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to provide a Dana's that sit there with cue cards going? Oh, hold on. I'm gonna need you to look this way. Look into the camera.

Unknown Speaker

Can you just move so I can get a better balance with this light? The

Unknown Speaker

backi ahead is really started to base me off lady. So and one could argue Oh my god, that's so strange. And maybe it is because what have I'm sure you've done this. You've said to one of your buddies who's lived back home potentially not even ever been over here and you say, Oh, yeah, I live in Thailand. Yeah. What does he think? a six pack sex Pat? Oh my god. You're married to a Thai girl. What is she like? 18 years old? No, she's in her late 30s. And of course you take a picture of her send it to him because she looks like she's 18 this is full of shit. It's like, Oh, she a bar girl. She has a master's degree. She owns her own business. Right? Yeah. Because 99 Um, I'm gonna go I'm gonna go with like 96% of Thailand is not a red light district. Is it? 99% though? Probably 99.9. Yeah, it's five nines. They're nice, because of the reliability and the redundancy that's available. But there's so much that's No, I mean, again, at the end of the day, there are less gay people in San Francisco than heterosexual people. But what do people keep Provincetown? Cape Cod? Well, okay. Yeah, there's actually a lot of gay people that

Unknown Speaker

one week. Totally.

Unknown Speaker

Yeah, yes. I mean, gay pride or whatever. Yeah, I mean, I don't think I don't think a lot of gay people live there. Because what like, this is a thing. If you live in province, what the fuck do you do for work outside the tourist season?

Unknown Speaker

Well, you're you're a digital nomad.

Unknown Speaker

You're drop shipping,

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drop shipping for profit style,

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because you're like, you know what, I just like the humidity here. This ever go to the Chiangmai. And of course, it was so much cheaper to live in Provincetown, where the cost of living is

Unknown Speaker

just through the roof. Ridiculous.

Unknown Speaker

Yeah, it's very expensive, but it's okay. You know, to be it's clean. It's a dope town. It's a dope town, dude. It's really cool. It's all the way at the end. And at the end of the day, I've never been in a community where they are sort of known for having gay guys never been bothered the data to tell you like a you know, gone have gone quit me. Yeah, absolutely. Super gay. Like software

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is what we call

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so Supriya I didn't know it was like a super gay. Oh, God. Yeah. This is like 20 years ago, I went on vacation with this girl I was dating. It was like four and a fall. Okay, so the end of season Yeah, like everything was super cheap, right? And I found this this dope, like, Bed and Breakfast in Algonquin? Yes, it was like, free but is like from a US $100 Yeah, that's nothing and you know it. It's me driving through like we rented a car drove up and driving off and I'm like, I can like a lot of dude just holding hands.

Unknown Speaker

There's a lot of brothers his family like,

Unknown Speaker

so check into the check into the bed and breakfast and like, you guys are here together. Oh, yeah, no, she's got a hole in there. Like where we don't write it, but, but it was just like the coolest trip I've ever had on Yeah, it's such a good place. And it's just something that caught my eye when I first got got into town. Because you're driving through that one main road. Yeah. And, like, the only time I ever saw like, like that it was noticeable. Mm hmm. And then I remember when I left and I'm one of my family I was like I want to accomplish and I was like, super gay. I was like, I don't think is that gay? Every place I've been to the Key West us Florida, right. I was down there. And other people told me that super gay as well and like never really noticed it. None of the guys I slept with down there told me like there was a gay play. Well, you know how to tell if one of your gay when one of your guy friends is gay? Right?

Unknown Speaker

It makes eye contact.

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You're sucking on his dick and it tastes like shit.

Unknown Speaker

We editing that out? We're not

Unknown Speaker

God. ratings are gonna go through the roof. Michael, what are you doing in Bangkok? Well, I'm not doing a fucking podcast. Mom. Let me say that right now. Doing the G rated YouTube livestream. She's like

Unknown Speaker

Cox when I google your name, that's bad.

Unknown Speaker

Why are you strange all the colon I could really do without the language. Michael.

Unknown Speaker

very vulgar. He should go to church and ask.

Unknown Speaker

Yeah, when I go to Buddhist temple and wrap my legs, my bare legs and a friggin

Unknown Speaker

take your shoes off.

Unknown Speaker

Yeah, so here's the Oh, that's a strange wear wear shoes that are easy to take off. Because I'm especially if you're doing like the tourist thing. So like when I go out on a daily I have lace up shoes I wear you're not taking those off really anywhere. Like if I go from massage obviously I plan to take them off but

Unknown Speaker

but going to a mall. It's like

Unknown Speaker

yeah, like anyone don't know, like, but if you're on a touristy thing. And you're going to if you're on a touristy trip type thing, like your first time in Thailand, you're going to go to temples, where at least a shoe that you can slip on and off? Yeah. Because you're going to have to take your shoes off everywhere every time you go inside. And it's not necessarily the whole taking it off thing. I mean, you can take off sneakers really quick. It's about putting them back on. Yes. And then you're like, I'm like because after a while, it does kind of get you know, you don't want to be that asshole who's holding up all your friends because you can't get your shoes on. The other thing you don't want to do is get frustrated and be like, oh, screw it. I won't take off my shoes and go inside. That's not gonna happen, then you're the asshole. Yeah, then you're super straight. Let's

Unknown Speaker

just shoot. I'm not gonna happen.

Unknown Speaker

Yeah, the abs. Yeah, absolutely. And the good news, though, is that the majority of the ties will they won't necessarily tell you you're doing the wrong thing. Actually, in a tourist area. They would Yeah, they would inform you of you're doing the wrong thing. But they're going to be incredibly gracious about it. Yeah. I remember one of the first times I was in a in an actual temple, and there was a huge Buddhist statue. And there's a whole bunch of people and they're all sitting on their knees with their feet behind them. Right? And I go in and I'm like, Okay, well, that looks okay. But it's not really that comfortable. So what do I do? Stick my feet straight out. feet, basically facing the Buddha. Lean back on my arms. I'm like, Oh, my God. Oh my God, this place is so cool. I really love it in here. These people are having a great time. Nobody's making any noise. They're all sitting like really appropriately. And I'm just sitting here relaxing. Got my feet straight out there. Don't

Unknown Speaker

show your feet to Buddha.

Unknown Speaker

And luckily a guy came by he tapped me on the shoulder and he says no, no food featuring. But the way he did it was so elegant. Yeah, I might have been a little I don't know if I was embarrassed. But I was like, well, for the most important part was like, thank god this guy told me Yeah. And to the strange point of that. I've been in scenarios where I've been doing something because out of ignorance, culturally inappropriate, and basically been publicly humiliated. Yeah, and it's like, you know what, and then you start getting defensive. You're like, screw you. I never wanted to speak Spanish anyway. She friggin jackass. What are you doing Robin out hotdog and bacon. friggin retard. Yeah, there's a back east word. Yeah, in fact, give me Chad you smoke back in red. Pumpkin retarded Oh my god. Yeah, that's that's definitely East Coast northeast. Yeah, yeah. So one of the other things to think about with with the strangeness so outside like your your first trip here as a tourist or doing whatever. You know, doing business here interacting with people socially is a little different. Right? There's a whole idea of saving face. Yeah, Thai culture. And so it's like like you said the guy came over and like he helped you say face because he was like very quiet. Yes. Yeah, move your feedback, right? And if you approach people with that same mindset, that same mentality it's definitely strange from a Western fuck you dude. Sit that God damn

Unknown Speaker

it. Didn't you read the manual? You see

Unknown Speaker

every other motherfucker here. do with it. You idiot that I would be you'd be losing face if I did that. Yeah, big time. And so And then I would look bad amongst everyone else. And if then he would look bad as well because he's lost face but I would have lost face for making him lose face. Additionally, if you, you know, if you get frustrated by like the speed with which something is happening or it's not going your way in America, we do it this way. It's like yeah, that's amazing America sucks ass. But I mean no judgment, no judgment. But the thing is, is that the whole

Unknown Speaker

reason we're not there? Yeah, copy

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that dude up

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is the whole saving face thing. Okay, so like nobody in the United States like to be publicly embarrassed, no. Okay, but this is the way that I heard it described to me and I love this one. And I always share that if you think you're going to like oust somebody and be right by doing it in public and basically embarrassing them public. Doing that in Thailand to a Thai person and intentionally having them lose face is the equivalent in the United States of physically walking up to someone and punching them in the face. What do you think about that? You think that's fairly accurate? I used to hang out with a lot of fighters. So that's kind of what you guys did. You're like, Hey, dude, I love you, too. Okay, awesome. It is it is true. And it is something that Phil remember, it'll hurt them. And we were talking earlier with Jim about like, correcting language, right? So like, Jim speaks fluent English. But of course, there's times she makes grammatical mistakes. So she articles for Yeah, she'll make small mistakes, and I'll correct her privately. But if we're at home with friends, yeah, no. And you're like, ah, but if I did that in public, she would be like, not the coolest thing. Yeah, totally. Right. Don't be an asshole to have. Yeah, exactly. She goes, You know what word I know how to say an English asshole. Yeah, that was that was my pronunciation. douchebag. That's another one. I've learned that my girlfriend's taught me about my husband. But yeah, and so. And the reason I kind of describe it that way, is if I were to walk up to you in public anywhere, right, yep. You know, physically, you know, to attack you, right? And your buddies were around? What would happen?

Unknown Speaker

You get a beat down? Yes. or they'd help you depends on what

Unknown Speaker

it is Dana, it's kind of shitty to his wife. What do you say we. And so over here, you will hear stories about some guy got really drunk at a bar started mouthing off to some Thai guy. And then hours later, 17 of his other friends started beating this guy up and you're like, well, that's totally strange. No, it's actually the way it works here. And quite frankly, it might slap you into being a little bit more appropriate. So yeah, you know, watch yourself be be normal. But you know, the strangeness of which things occur. Also, you mentioned the speed of thing. Yeah. Thailand is very surprised by and that's, you know, very laid back. And they a lot of ties, do things with a very loose sense of urgency. Yeah,

Unknown Speaker

the definitely the different sense of urgency. Yeah.

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And so, like, you're not going to change that to be, you know, I'm from New York, I'm from Boston. That's not gonna happen. Don't come here and expect to change everything around you. You have to adapt to that. Because I'll tell you right now, if you're from Boston, and all of a sudden, a Thai person walks into a scenario that's either happening too slow or too fast, then the last thing they're gonna friggin say is, Oh, my God, we do it this way. In Thai. Yeah. So don't be a global douchebag. And like, all of a sudden start trying to impose Yeah, the way you think it's correct, because it's the way you do things in Thailand again, it's why we live here. Yeah. So that's interesting that we were talking about freedom and like the sense of freedom that we have. Yeah, I forget who it was someone comments on one of our videos, and basically saying that, you know, we're confusing, like economic prowess with freedom. Okay. And that's a fair a fair call, right? It's easy to see how someone would think that, but I don't think that's correct at all. So, yes, you come here and you have more economic advantage for sure. As a Westerner living here, even like if you're working here, you're making more than the locals, right? It's just the way it works out a lot about it. You have to even if you're a teacher, where there's an exemption, you're making fairly more money than the average Thai. Fair enough. And definitely more than the average Thai teacher. Yeah, for sure. And so, you know, you're in a better financial situation. So yes, there is an you can definitely have economic advantage here. I'm not denying that. But to me, the sense of freedom doesn't come with the economic advantage that I have. It comes with the freedom of actually stepping away from the commitments of economic economics in the US. Like I don't need in the US, right, we say keeping up with the Joneses. Yeah, for sure. Right. And I'm sure a lot of this probably a European term for the same thing. might might even be the same term, but you know, basically keeping up with you know, all my neighbors got a new Porsche. I need to go get a new Corvette, right. You know, oh, they just added a new garage. I need a garage. It's gotta be a two car garage. Oh, my friend just got a house. I need to buy a bigger house. And there's all of these sorts. aspects of like keeping up with life and you are very much able to step away from that when you come here. Now, to be fair, there is also a hierarchy in Thai society. And there are indeed behaviors like that, that I see Thais doing the neat thing about I would submit, at least me, probably you but a lot of us, like sort of Westerners that come over here is that there is no competition than we're in with the ties for sure. And they would prefer that we just kind of do our own thing. Absolutely. And then integrate with them as the best we can. But it's like, I have had people look at me and they would question like, material things that I have, or don't have or don't have, and the fact that I don't have them is totally fine, because I am a Westerner. Now you're you're 50 Yeah, 5256 we're both like Gen X is you're at the top and I'm at the bottom. So I think that's very much our generation that that is excited. I know a few boomers who live out here and they're still very much about material possessions. Yeah. Which is kind of too bad. Don't you feel like did we we have the freedom from that. And you guys are still talking about how many friggin lug nuts are on your bitchin car, like what are you talking about? I actually had one of my clients had two boomers who work there are probably two of the most out of touch individuals I've ever met. once lived here for like, almost 20 years. The other one is one of the most worthless human beings I've ever met. But that's another story altogether. And actually, someone commented that I always say, I'll tell this story in another podcast. We'll keep watching. Yeah, so I got it. I've got to make sure that I remember what stories I said I'm gonna tell. But so one of the other ones, he actually He's like, Oh, you haven't bought a car here yet? I'm like, No, like, I sold my three cars in America, right to come here and not have to own a car. Yeah. And like if I really wants to take in, like Jim and I are discussing like maybe buying property outside the city. Yeah. And I was like, She's like, oh, we'll need a car to get that. Like, we don't actually have to own a car. Like I can rent a car with insurance like for $20 a day grab. Well, if you go and like a couple hours outside. You get there is no way to get back. Yeah, good point. Right. But like, like if we bought property we want to go out for a weekend to like, if we build a cottage or wherever, right? Yeah, rent a car for two days with insurance. Zero liability after I'm done with it big time and just drive out and come back and like literally you can get a pickup like a four by four pickup for like 650 baht a day. Yeah, with insurance and every definitely 1000 baht or less right? Yeah, depends every tourist area, you know, time of year, that sort of thing. But yeah, the point is very reasonable. Yeah. And it's the exact same car that's only two or three years old that you would rent an Avis Yeah, from basically San Diego. So here's the thing. It's like so when he's like, Oh, you haven't bought a car out here yet? Why not? He's like, I just he was like telling he's like I just bought my second I bought a brand new Pajero. It's like one of these big

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Mitsubishi. I think

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you live in Bangkok like I do. Why? Why do you want to own a car? Like you, you take the train every day, like there's no need. But again, that's part I think that's like the Gen X in the younger, like people younger than us and younger are kind of more prescribed to that lifestyle where it's like, I don't need to own a car. I don't need to own all this fancy stuff. And like you said, there's a tie society definitely has hierarchical structures in in this there is some materialism within how many condos Do you have a Mercedes? Right Mercedes is a big status symbol. Yeah, especially for middle class ties. Because that's the king drive. Yeah. So you get to the point where it's like, I don't have to be involved in that I'm not you know, and some people do get stuck in that mindset like oh, I need to I want to show up and be with no because no matter what, we're not in that hierarchy for them.

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We'll never be tired. You'll never be tired and they don't have a Thai

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passport. Yeah, speak Thai fluently you're not Thai, you're still around doesn't matter. And that's a good thing for us. It's not a bad thing. And the ability to step away from the economic stress and structure of the US but still be very comfortable life wise. Oh yeah. In the US like oh, yeah, I'm gonna buy turn a van into a house and go live in a national park right with a solar panel and a water purifier. Sure. You're roughing it pretty bad. Yeah, and I mean, again, everyone has their own desire what is comfortable? Yeah, no, but again for you and I it's like, I mean, again, should you live was 200 square meters? Yeah, yeah. I weighed 280 Yeah, so like 300 square meters. And so I'm in like, 6055 60

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Yeah, but how much of this do I actually live in you know, it's

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downstairs in this room and then just sleep.

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Well I work in Yeah. So like we run our business here.

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So your living is up here?

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Yeah, my living is I like the small room and then we have the living room where you're trying to convince me from my living room to the new so here's the thing. I don't see any downside really. A room that is twice the square footage, you know, because that living room I haven't seen a whole lot of living going on. I see all the TV in there. Right. So that really is the so the couch is actually a bed. convertible is because

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it watch movies and

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medical so we watch movies and yeah and chill out but for the most part the reason that rooms not suitable for for living is the air con is crazy loud.

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Yeah, for the studio that wouldn't work.

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It's just like just not not not such a good guy to

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upgrade that I think that'd be a pain

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but ideally, I mean that is that would be a good size room hold. Don't forget, I mean, I'm more than happy with the temperature that is inside this door is not air conditioned. I like it more. If you guys saw I'm wearing a scarf. And you guys have seen me in scars before if you know me, I'm also wearing jibs Shaw over my legs. Because I'm certainly not going to invest in pants. That's another thing. So yeah, so this air con it's not as loud but it really only works up like one temperature. It's got a binary so it can go colder. But this is essentially the warmest it gets without being like crazy cold

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all I knew I didn't even know how to thermostat.

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The thermostat in this I bought it like it's very finicky. Like I got it. And so like if I go jiggle it if I go too much warmer, Shigella jiggle, jiggle, jiggle. Fair enough. You'll too much warmer. Yeah. And it's like the heater. So like, yeah, the switch doesn't kick very binary. Yeah. Okay.

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It's kinda like a knife switch, basically, like,

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you definitely go colder.

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No interest to me that.

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I can't feel my toes right now. But whatever. We're doing a podcast.

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So let me ask is I mean, you were you know, Boston, you've been you've spent some time in New York City, right? Like this. I never lived there. But I spent a lot of time visiting and using train. Yeah, to get around. So I bet if you're watching from Boston, like if you live in downtown Boston, not like I like I say I grew up in Boston. But that's only because basically it's the biggest city there. The people know if I say

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lived in Boston.

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Yeah, you were living right. And so

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if you lived in Quinsey, you did not live in Boston, you know who I'm talking to. And I grew up in Hangzhou. And people like What the hell's hanging out? Yeah, they might even know him England. Yeah, they would know hang him. But the point is, is that, you know, you definitely needed a car where I grew up. Oh, yeah, for sure. San Diego, all of

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Pataki, where I grew up needed a car absolutely had to get around. I mean, the

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buses were ridiculous. They're like offensive. They don't.

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Where I live in Connecticut, the bus one day, like once every two hours.

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Yeah. And then to get you know, anyway, so it doesn't work that way. Whereas over here, there are non air conditioned buses, there are air conditioned buses. And then there is the BTS. This is all on the same road, the MRT. Right, but on the st. Like, on sukumvit. Now you have three trucks. And then of course, you can also take a cab and do all this. That's a song towel. So I guess if you're from like, you know, downtown Boston, right? Do you live in like, you know, you're going to Northeastern, for example, or something? You're taking the tea everywhere. What do they call the train in New York? subway? Just called subway? And if you're doing that, are you taking the owl? I got a friend who lives in

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Chicago right now.

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And you're like, yeah, I mean, I got I never forget this, like one of the first times growing up, you know, and I would like meet guys at like University who came in from out of state and they're like, I am from New York City. I'm like, Okay, cool. We want to take your car. He's like, I don't have a car. Yeah. I mean, people from New York City do have a driver's license. Yeah. And it's up to us. Right? But they're like, bro, what did you get me to do? park it somewhere? That's their thing. sukumvit Yeah, you want to get from point A to point B? You're like, Oh, yeah, I'm gonna take my Montero. Yeah, whenever you're gonna walk. Yeah, take the train. You're a jackass. So here's the thing with the he talked about the air conditioned versus non air conditioned buses. A lot of people's default is to go air con boss agreed, Bob, you might be better off in the non air con box. Right. And I have often done this and not just for price, but it is cooler often. Because it's not packed nuts, the butts. And it's and depending upon time of day, if it's like bumper to bumper traffic, you may not get hotter. Yeah, you'll die of association. Yes. So there's that downside. I will say that the because I take the the a one a two a three right, then this room from Don Juan, those are only hair comp. Right? Exactly. And they also have an extra sort of amount of space. You can't really do nuts, the butts because they have the massive amount of open area for luggage. Correct. And so I've been on that where it's like been totally packed. And it's not too bad. The air conditioning is decent on those. But the ones your

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tacos have nicer than the city bus, like almost brand new.

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I mean, you know, and but yeah, the city buses that are air conditioned, there's actually two kinds of air conditioned buses, right? There's the smart bus, which is a fairly new one, kind of like the ones from the airport. And then there's just like the ones that potentially didn't have air conditioning, and now they have air conditioning. So they're kind of old. And those are the ones that you can be a little wrong. It's questionable. So the nice thing about the non air conditioned buses, they have this mechanical fan system. Yes. So they have these rotating fans on the ceiling, which is cool. But sometimes they don't work. What's your bad? Yeah, but the thing that really gets me that the reason I'll often avoid the non air conditioned buses is the steps. Again, the steps are three steps, three different sizes. And they're narrow and wide all at the same time. Occasionally,

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there'll be varying degrees of rust

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on these steps in angle. Yeah.

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And so but again, so here's where, arguably like we're talking about, so you're like, Oh my god, it's like third world country. It's like, you know, Venezuela in the middle of it. No, it adds to the coolness yes it does it arguably could be you can say oh my god you guys are so strange you actually like something that's defective so no it like the only reason I really avoid the steps of my knees. So going ups no big deal right and coming down and you've got to do it before they take off again. That's the other thing. Yeah, so buses here don't really it's kind of a hot load hot offload situation. I mean, unless you're like about not if you're an older Thai woman, yeah, he will almost get out of his chair. Yeah, yeah. as well the other people that are on the bus. If you're like a white guy this presumably should be able to lift 350 pounds

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that'd be a little roll homie

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it may not make a full stop.

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So I used to take the bus home a lot when I lived in North Georgia I would take the train to chop chop and then take the bus up to the the main soy I lived on Okay, no no sometimes where I live I can take a scooter but it's like one kilometer so yeah, was bad. Yeah, right. And there was sidewalk there. So there you go. easy walk. Yeah, um, because it's a newer neighborhood because how far north it is. But like the getting off because it's a main bus stop and like all the buses is like right past the LA Prowl intersection. Oh, which is like a shitshow of an intersect. So wait, is it kind of like chatty chalk? Where it's like bus, bus bus bus stop. So one after another? No, cuz they'll just all pull up and stop in the same location. So they just because all the bus lines, they all go down with poverty. Right? No, no, that jockeying for position to get in on so they're all there. So the buses are coming from LA Prowl and like taking the turn around and merging. And then the buses have come from chart to chart and they're all fighting in the tropic. Then everyone's jockeying to get to that pull off spa. It's a kind of like National Stadium like but if they didn't have like this. That is awesome. You guys have never been there take the BTS to friggin National Stadium. Because it's a it's a giant circle. Yeah, but there's bus stops at every, like every quadrant. Yes, it's awesome. And they all pull in. Sometimes the number 37 will be on the inside. Sometimes on the outside, you got to know which one you know how to get on how to get off. It's awesome.

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It's so entertaining. So you take this bus over, would you have to like jump off?

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Somebody who just kind of roll into the slowing down? All right, what do I got to do here? And like you got to position yourself? Yeah, you gotta you gotta ring the bell flow. No, you want to get off

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with a

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push? Yeah. So but like most of the time, like, someone's always getting off there. Yeah. So like if the main one. So like, I would always hit it. But for me, the other issue is if I'm standing if I don't have a seat, right? Because a lot of times if I'm on the bus, I just don't want to sit anyway because like, I've been sitting all day, you know, I'd rather stand just kind of stretch my legs. Right? And so not a big deal for me, but I can't see where I'm going because I'm so tall.

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You're inside of the.

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Yes. So I try to explain this agenda the daily we're driving by something she's like, Oh, look at this. I'm like, I can't

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Yeah, it's gotta get down in there. Yeah,

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right. And first, we're in the backseat of a grab. And I'm like, Oh,

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these tiny ass windows. And Jim's like, Oh, no. So I'll toss Jim. five feet. No, no, she's like, 163 centimeters. Five, four. Something like that. Yeah. And so no one knows centimeters.

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Well, no as tacky probably knows. He's friggin Australian.

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Yeah, so any americans i apologize but yeah, the imperial system sucks. Um, go metric

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absolutely go metric

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time. They're like fucking metric.

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Engineers.

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So you get to you get to get on the bus. I can't see where I'm going. So I have to like at one point when I would take this false all the time. I had the like, the marks on the sidewalk. Memorize. Pulling. Nine. Dude, jump off. You don't do that. Like I like I'll sit there and hold my phone on Google Maps?

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No, I'm good. Watch them.

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Say your besties Merv, if you're a veteran, new veteran busca Dylan my first year full time you know. So that'll be plus h plus eight is a known commodity. I've got a bus a video on my channel. I'll link it below. Bus eight can be that the crazy one where the drivers are like supposed to be super crazy. Yeah, there's a time movie right now called bus 888. Which

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does that mean? Something

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like 88888. Does that is it? So 808 is a drum machine. Right? Okay. Yeah, it's supposed to because it's bossy. Yeah. All right, that makes sense. There's some interesting things like that, like numbers, right? I mean, now in my building, obviously, there's a 13th floor. But it's 12. A. Yeah, that's another strange thing. Because obviously we've heard of, you know, 1214, that sort of thing. But what's interesting is the significant Delta in cost. And because they know it's the 13th floor, but they're not going to say anything. Yeah,

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it's 12 a

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half price. I had no idea until I signed the course. You know, the woman that showed it to me. She's not gonna show me the inexpensive one. Yeah, half price. If I live three floors, I'm on the 10th floor. If I live three floors, above Because it's the 13th floor, it's unlucky. I'll tell you how God damn lucky I feel when I'm paying half my rent. You know what's amazing ties lots of big thing in Thai culture. Yes. And so the strange things that you'll know like so not they'll suggest is, you know, very I would say cosmopolitan the word modern, very educated. You know, scientist Yep. But she's not out there rubbing trees to get an oversized they just think that they rub the tree until the the divine a number from the tree is that like the role of the pouring into the water? Yeah, and the base base the trees okay. Yeah. And then they'll Robin and like the wait for the tree to divine them in numbers. And then they'll play the lottery every time they do that. I'm stealing their wallet.

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Daddy, my Thai listeners?

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Yeah. You see a bald white dude, call your brother the tree son of I just lost $3,000 screw this lucky tree biz. More like 300 baht. I get a little box. So there are lucky numbers in Thai. But the funny thing is 13 is not an unlucky number here. Right. So I guess that's probably an indication that my building was designed for foreigners. Hmm, well, I mean, so but even my old building, which was built in the 90s when I lived in also, okay, no foot no 13th floor.

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What is it? 1214? Or is it 1212? a?

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I think it was 1212. Okay, yeah,

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I've never, I don't remember 12. Eight. In the US. I just remember 1214. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, there are buildings here that have a 13 floors. It's not a big deal. But I think i think i think the perception became that all Westerners think it's unlucky. So there's good. It's a luck thing. What's the unlucky Chinese number? Is it like six?

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maybe seven? Is it 70?

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Yeah, I don't either. Okay. But I have been in buildings where like, I look up on the panel. And it's like, 123 715 I'm like cheese's crap. Any friggin individual company, other cultures are coming in at all. That's an unlucky number. Well, you know what? Something lucky for me paying full price. I'll tell you what, why don't you give me this room for less than I want it? Yeah.

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So you move in rooms next year.

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What's interesting about my place, and I discovered this when I was in the base. Yeah, if you guys there's going to be if you come here and you start Airbnb, you will likely stay in a sansiri property. Right? Because they're everywhere. They're nice. They are pretty nice. little smaller than I'd like rather than the probably the nicest builder in Thailand in Bangkok, at least

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certainly one of the largest.

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And they do some nice property. Yeah.

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And so it's pretty good. And the neat thing about the guy running it to me, or you know, the Airbnb host. He was on the board of sansiri. So we're talking to him like, did I see sansiri? everywhere? He's like, Oh, yeah, I'm on the board. I'm like, Oh, really? So what do you do advising? He says, Oh, yeah, we got a ton of projects. Now. This is in December. Yeah, pre COVID. Life is fucking awesome, right? For this guy. 1500 projects they're working on at any given time. Wow. Like how big He's like, what have you not seen one of our buildings. Good point. Anyway, so in that building, we're on the top floor. And I'm thinking this is gonna be awesome. We're way up there. It's gonna be quiet. It's going to be great. so noisy. Yeah. And because it was like near the freeway, and for whatever reason, the the sound just seemed to like bounce all the way up to the top of the building like we couldn't, there would be like three blocks away, a dog would bark, we'd hear it. I'm like, this is friggin. So now I'm on the 10th floor. And I'm like, shielded from, like, the main street that I'm on and everything. So I'm cautious about moving even to like, save some money, because I would rather spend three times what I normally would need to do and get a good night's sleep.

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Yeah, but what if you just buy the room? Three, four, or rent the room? three

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floors above? i? Yeah, maybe. I mean, again, who knows? I mean, I would assume the sound would be the same. But I've had this one experience where I'm like, so silly. I would be like, I gotta sleep there a week, and then I'll let you know. So Jim and I are previously it's an awesome who's the penthouse in our building. This is like the top two floors. And when we moved in there was like, not nothing going on. Right. Like literally a week later, they stop building a condo, right behind our building.

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friggin it's a crane rains

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and yeah, they start working early. Yeah, yeah. But so most of the time, it wasn't too bad. Okay, Jim was working from home at the time, so I felt bad for her. But I was I was out most days. And so but I would come home and they'd still be working for like another hour or so they usually till seven right? Yes. Yeah. And so it wasn't really like it was always loud. But it was never a noxious until they got up to the floor that we were about height.

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Yeah, noises coming straight in there with them

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for like three weeks while they were building up those levels then it's like,

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Thank God make it higher, please. And then they

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finally finished so yeah, they ended up going up. I think it was like 15 floors higher than my building. So floor. Were you on 2425 Okay, all

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right. So the 40 Yeah, that's about right.

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Yeah. So They went to about 40, maybe like 38 or something. You know, that was all the roof stuff that they share. They put like a actually an adult pool, I could see the pool when they were built on the top floor. No, like halfway up. That's pretty cool is like hangs off the side. Nice, pretty cool. That's pretty sweet. It was a nice building. But, you know, while they were building the outside, and then they were loading the interior stuff as they went. So like you'd see them in the morning loading up the cranes and dropping stuff in every day. That's one of the reasons Actually, I kind of like my building. My building is probably about 20 years old. So at least in my experience, and certainly this is where it is where I live. Walls are thicker. Yeah, right. So great. sounds the same in my places, all in. So where we lived was like it was built on the roof. So it's like they built it up to floor. 23 Nice. And then like alright, 2425 we'll build it on the roof. Yeah, so even when, like, so I would walk out every morning. And what I loved about this place was not walking into a hallway. Like I would leave my front door into the garden on the roof. Very cool. So that was pretty nice. We have the heli pad was above us. So I don't even I don't think it was functional. Like Like I went out had a big h on it. So I went up so I went up on it a few times. And like the if a pilot saw this like overhead like now find somewhere else. I landed that got him crane. Exactly. It's a lowercase h For God's sake. It's so small. So it was like rusty. And there were pieces like you tell a bit patched together. Yeah, so like probably just a match code or whatever to meet code. Not a lot of usage. Not a lot of usage. And so but but it added like a little bit extra like protection from the song. Oh, places never crazy high. There you go. Yeah, it's nice. And but like the nicest thing was not walking into a hallway. So kind of escaping that sort of life. So two story. Yeah. So what was it like living room and kitchen on the bottom floor and then rooms in the set? Like how is this walk in it was like a little like mudroom. Okay. And then there's a little walk in kitchen. Okay, um, is a bedroom, but it was really a like an office, or home office, right? was bigger than this. Okay, but it was like no closet or anything like that. And there was a bathroom on the first floor, like a little living room and like a little patio at the back. All right. And then upstairs was just two bedrooms. two bedrooms, two bathrooms was pretty nice. I think you told me you paint like, what? 50 60,000 a month? Yes. Not too bad. I mean, considering you know, where, obviously the location was great. Yeah. And, you know, and I'm sure you Oh, was this also he had like a doorman. Yeah. Yeah, that's pretty nice. Pretty good quality service. It's not a bad spot. Yeah, for sure. Like, I mean, most places have like a he's not like a in a suit and tie though. Yeah. But like if I told him like, my friends are coming like, the looks of it. Yeah. And to be fair, it's like, I don't have a dorm. But I have 24 seven. Yeah, there's a guy in a uniform. Yeah. And you know, of course, part of his job now is to do the temperature thing. And you know, make sure But yeah, I mean, if I like walked in, I don't know what would happen. I mean, obviously, you know, Gracie showed up with me initially and I think she even signed the lease. I know that they made her give her a copy of her passport. Yeah, so she's like as part of the record of living there. And you know, but I don't know I mean, if I walked in like I've I locked him with you, they'd be like, whatever. Yeah, he'd like say hi to me. So it's like the same thing like if they saw me come like obviously I'm fairly recognizable even though we have that there were some other expats shipping there. Yeah, and also the guys who who rent it they know where I live. Yeah. The guys who run the front door they know where I live. They absolutely

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know the guy in the panel.

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Yeah, so it's like you're it's like Alright, go ahead. Yeah. And you're you had an up there and if I come in with my friends or whatever, she'll get sure serve right away. Yeah. And yeah, it's not a bad place right is a good good spot to live in while I was working there there right? Yeah, that's true. You're working near there. Yeah. Which is much I mean, chitlin also awesome. Okay, got it. Yeah, shitload was pretty nice man. spa expensive. Yeah, kind of to Western for me though. It is very so it's very Western very high. So Thai Yeah. And very expensive area we have a project that we're working on. We'll tease it a little bit here because this will be on a few weeks shares a our BTS project where we're gonna visit a lot of the stations and give you guys some some info and do it in a very strange way. And just so you know, I mean, you say our goal I think Yeah, I'm not mistake every stage every single stage every session because there are you guys have heard of a song you've heard of none. And I can tell you right now when we go to Nana, we're not going to get off on Nana and go to Nana freakin plasma. We're gonna go somewhere we've never seen exactly, because it's straight. Because like, the whole point of this is the things in Bangkok, you don't know about. Right? And like, like we were talking earlier about I did that episode with woody about how the fuck can so like kabwe exist? Totally, because there were rad. Yeah. And, you know, so like, we want to explore things that you don't know about Bangkok. Right? And that's the goal here. And so you know, we're not going to get off at nano station or nano Plaza. to these people and of course you and I go there, it's like yeah, lovely. You know, salad. Yeah, maybe some soda water. Yeah. Now of course when we go to also show you, Paul, absolutely. Who doesn't go to Paulo when you're at awesome we are gonna have to have and here's what's interesting about Paula, I had absolutely no clue it existed and how many times you walk past it every time and just had no idea. Yeah, in fact, I think I probably did walk by one time if I if I remember correctly, I smelled pizza because it smells amazing. They're amazing. And I said to my boss, it smells amazeballs slap it on the desk. And I probably thought, wow, Dunkin Donuts is like making some frickin pizzas or something.

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That doughnut pizza.

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Yeah, because there's a Dunkin Donuts right there. So naturally, so if you're a New Englander, right, you know, Dunkin Donuts, you have to have it in San Diego, right? Not really, I mean, in fact, No, they don't. They used to have them but they don't have Krispy Kreme. San Diego for doughnuts. So if you're in New England, you're fucking New England. Fucking no Dunkin don't know where to park

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Bobby and get some coffee, you're going to Dunkin.

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So if you're from Rhode Island, you give directions to places based on the Dunkin Donuts that they'll pass. And just to be clear, you don't say Dunkin Donuts Dunkin. You say Dunkin? Yeah, you're up Dunkin. If you're going to Dunkin you're up. Dunkin

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Egon was from Dunkin. You're going up. I'm

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going up Dunkin. Bobby, you want to give me your pocketbook?

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So, the Dunkin Donuts here is very different. Yeah,

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they're not as good.

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So well they coffee here. Well, Dunkin Donuts coffee sucks ass and but here they do a Thai style probably makes it palatable. Yeah, I would. I would say I've never ordered it though. Just because of my experience with Dunkin Donuts, dunkin donuts. That's why I do three in one It tastes better than fucking dunkin donuts. Here is where the sophistication of me goes into the fucking toilet if there ever was any degree of

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ever was.

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Mike drinks 23% of his beverage is sugar that he's like, boy, this coffee is good. Meanwhile, I'm downstairs grinding beans. And there are so we do the podcast Tuesdays at nine in the morning Bangkok time. Is 30 minutes of no show prep, because this guy is like double clicking on a fucking French press in a cat. I don't even know if you have anything here of that volume. No. I mean it is 32 ounces, right? There are factories in the United States that put preservative fruit in this thing so they can sell it the Costco. This thing is so large, it comes to the shoulder strap as far as I know, this beverage container. And he and he Spencer. And he's like God, you want some? I'm like no, no, no, just give me some hot water. I travel with my own fucking three in ones because of course they're so expensive it you know, but it's just I mean, you're on a sewer. I buy the same beans. Every every month. Wait, what date today is the 20th 20th? Yeah. Okay, so what the 23rd you're doing the coffee drink off or something? October 3, October 3. Okay.

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Bye for

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late at night for you. Meaning it's after seven to 9pm Oh,

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9pm Pm Bangkok time, rarely

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awake at 9pm. Because again, I like to get up. Yeah, before, for pretty much I like to get up. And the nice thing about it too, is that I don't have a job. So I don't have to get up to an alarm. I also like to get up early, but I also like to go to bed late. Yeah. So I'm like, I can't be up in two hours. Yeah, no, I like to. I mean, again, at the end of the day, I think it kind of started when I was spending a lot of time with Gracie and potentially be in the Philippines. And we would be in areas where once the sunset, it was pretty much the end of the day town closed. It. I mean, the tat Yeah, my village close the village. Yeah. And certainly we're in we're at the farm. Her parents are like, well,

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you look outside, there's zero light, you're like, Okay, I'm asleep.

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Yeah, it's awesome. Because then you, at least for me, it is then I wake up at like 430 Let's get light out because the chickens in the village they have air conditioning or not enough electricity for that. So the short answer is there is enough electricity for that. But you don't do that. I mean, you would have to seal off the house right to have the even the split systems kind of thing. So no, there's there's none of that. There is a hotel and then the sort of the little village there and the hotel rooms have, you know, air conditioning installed and that sort of thing. But they're I mean, the way that the windows work is there's a giant hole, of course, and then in that space they have it's basically a piece of wood that's on sliders, and there's three of them. Yeah, so you can move them all out of the way. And then you have like two thirds of the window that's open. Or you can have one third. I mean, no screens, no screens. Yeah. Which interestingly enough, I remember We were up there and I said, She's like, Oh, yeah, well, there's gonna be mosquitoes. I'm like, you know how to prevent that? Right? Like he disclosed. So I showed her the whole thing and everything. And so then she built this new house that we built. Yeah. Second floor bedroom, install screens. How does she install them? Doom Doom, Doom, Doom, pretty permanent.

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So no cleaning. So

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there's no claim the screens there is no moving the screens? Like, I'd really like to stick my head out and look around at this beautiful. No. So you know, I mean, it baby steps. Yeah, she's she's gotten there. But I was I was actually really impressed with it. But of course, she's trying to explain I wasn't there at all for this construction. She's explained to first of all, it's her her uncle. Yeah. So he's like, he's like, Okay, well, my niece wants me to build her house. She doesn't know anything. She's my niece. She's a little Filipina girl, and she's dating some white guy. Yeah. And so she's like, Well, no, I put screen. She says she's explaining. And I said, Okay, well, here's what you do you have the ability to remove them. I mean, if you want to do one piece, that's fine. But you got to be able to so you can, you know, clean them. Yeah, that's it. Or you could do the sliding, you know, kind of thing. And then so I get there and the whole window is covered in screen.

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Yeah. No frame, right?

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Not really, no, it's just kind of like, I mean, again, of course, there's, you know, the two by fours and stuff in the wall, but they cut it out. They didn't necessarily put you know, because of course, the top of the door, right? They have the weight bearing, you know, there's not as much of that there. It's not to us code. Let me just say that your your windows open in your condo? Oh, yeah, absolutely. You have screens. I don't have screens. And here's what's interesting is there is a track for screens. And some of my neighbors have screens. So I said, Hey, can I like buy some screens? Right? I actually wanted to, I almost said pro but yeah, home pro thanks. So the home price I will maybe I'll you know they have the standard size here. But apparently they're like custom and then you have to make them she said they'd be 1000 baht. I'm like fine, do it. So um, but she never did, of course, because it's Thailand. Just like why would you want to buy screens? So but what's cool about the 10th floor is I can pretty much have the windows wide open.

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No mosquito mosquitoes,

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birds. No, I got pigeons all over the place. But they've never bugged me. They've never bugged me. They come on my balcony. One of the things I always found interesting here, because like we have screens here, we had screens on our last place at all our places that pretty much had screens there inside the window. It is a bit odd, because you got to move it to open the window. Yeah. And my plate my bungalow in a coma. Yeah, yeah. The same thing. Yes, I, I, I actually affected so I asked him about this. I was like, Why? Why don't you put the screens on the outside? And then the glass on the inside? So if you open the window, you never have to open the screen. Yeah. And she's like, we don't do that. Yeah. But what I will say is I liked it, because I could actually like have the whole window open. Yeah. Because I mean, when the screen is on the outside, traditionally, yes, you can move them. Yeah, but it's never smooth. It's not like, I actually liked it pretty much to the sliding glass door scenario. Yeah. Right. Whereas again, it's on the outside, but that that screen moves very easily. Yeah, you know, and I like that, but I love I mean, it's, it's, it's the world's biggest waste of electricity. I have the windows open in my place, and I can run an AC on because I like the fresh air. And I like the sound of like outdoors birds, or you want cold weather. I don't want it to cold. I don't want it this friggin cold. Just so you know, the studio that I build can have a fucking heater in it. It's gonna be a sauna in there. So be great right now nut sack is gonna be like laying in the friggin chairs.

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The how you're gonna run the equipment doesn't matter

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if I can outsource that. What about telco gear, so we can run it 110 friggin Fahrenheit all day long. Just keep keep the switcher with the producer outside is just run the mic. No, hire some Thai guy to be like, Oh my god, this is great. It's only 85 degrees in here. I'm used to doing this in the middle of the field. He's wearing a jacket. We're both naked. Because he's got to cover the sun. He's got his sleeves rolled all the way down, you know, and he's cooler than we are. That's another strange thing, right? You come over here and you think yourself, okay, it's gonna be hot as hell. So I'm gonna wear shorts. shorting top. Yeah, tank top, get as much you know, and you go outdoors. And then the end of the day. You're like, why is my taxi cab driver? Or no, sorry, my motorbike taxi driver. We're in a jean jacket. He's wearing a jean jacket fully all the way that he's got gloves on. Yeah, potentially. Full headgear? Yeah, this is pre COVID. So here's a strange thing. They tell you. Thais will say, Oh, the sun is strong today. Right when I first moved here. I thought like it's just a goofy way to say it's hot. Yeah, right. Like it's lost in translation. Yeah, right here. The sun is strong. It's hot. It's hot today. And no, that's not what they mean. What they mean is that Bangkok is the closest possible location on the Earth to the Sun. And it is fucking strong and it touches your skin and it feels horrible. Yeah,

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it's like little needles.

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Yeah. And so I go out. I wear I often Wear a long sleeve shirt or I wear a lot of times because I'll wear like a dress like a short sleeve dress shirt with shorts. But I'll wear a long sleeve over shirt over that to cover my arms. And if I ride a motorcycle Oh yeah, for sure. Yeah, I got buddies that come over here and they're like, dude, like I get it San Diego, you know, it was a little colder and obviously you're in it. You work indoors. Why are you I mean, I always pretty much always wear a long sleeve shirt. Yeah, I will roll up the sleeves. Yeah, and that sort of thing. But I always do this because great example. I'm in California, and I rent a motorbike. And I'm gonna drive around all day,

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rolling down all day long.

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Yeah, you can put on SPF, whatever. And then like a matter 45 seconds later, and I'll sweat it off, you know? And so it's like, but yeah, you cover and what's interesting is you don't get hotter. No, in fact, you're cooler covering yourself. So that that's about the fabric right? So you have to wear a true natural fat.

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plastic. Yeah, I would just like my

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jackets. If you're running polyester or you like your body condom. I'm all excited right that I've got this friggin foul weather gear. Pick it up this awesome new england dirt. It's pouring rain outside. But of course I can walk outside. Yeah, because it is raining. I'm gonna stay dry. So I got this full um, this is like a full yellow like, all the way down to the ankles. I got this thing on. I'm like, awesome. I get over here. I'm gonna be so proud of myself. I'm going to take this off jibs gonna be proud of me because she's gonna be like, Oh my God, this foreigner came over here walked in the rain stay totally dry. I take off this this, basically so soaking like literally my entire first thing I say to her is Oh my

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God, this thing must have a leak.

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We're laughing I get all this water on me that like my shirt is drenched. And they're like, laughing it Yeah. Did you sweat it? It's 110 degrees out. You're wearing a rubber jacket.

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I'm thinking oh my god full body.

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Little fucking Stephen reservoir

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lost frickin two kilos walking over here. friggin waterway. Yeah, this is like you know, so important safety tip get something that breathes. Yeah. So you can in a pinch that's not belly if you're stuck in a monsoon. Yeah, whatever. But yeah, they're breathable. Yeah, wet weather gear umbrella. Get a good umbrella that strong. I gotta get a good umbrella. My umbrella is not good. It's not strong. The frame bends if there's wind. Yeah. Or by like 100 baht disposable umbrella like one shot use pretty much. Yeah, that's that. That's actually the kind of raincoat that I travel with now. Yeah, just like I put it on once and it's it's so lame. And it's so one wear that when I do snap it in the front. Yeah, if I were to try and unsnap it just rips the fabrics. That's totally disposable fee. I mean, it's a trade off, right? Like how often do you actually get stuck in the rain? You know, versus how often is your thing to say what I learned from because I asked Jim I'm like, Well, what do you do? She goes, I just get wet. Yeah, like what she does? Yeah, walk outside my shirt gets a little wet. And then I come indoors and it dries off. Yeah, unlike your entire fucking shirt. The water is dripping down the back of your cast. This is my damn jackets leaking. I want my money back. This isn't fair. I want my 30 baht back. And it just it didn't didn't work. Now the umbrellas thing is interesting. And I think it probably works a lot better for people that are say, you know, Thai or Filipina? They're short. No, you and I walk around with an umbrella waist up we're doing good all day long

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ankles. No, no, no go.

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Game over heels down. So

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rainy season you really have to you have to be ready to get your feet

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wet. It's a timing thing to

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Yeah. But also like every little section where there's not sidewalk.

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Yeah, for sure. Right like

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you like understand that rainy season. Your shoes are gonna get soaked. Wear something you don't give a fuck if it gets wet. Wear something that's made to get wet. Like those beat shoes. Yeah, exactly. You know, it makes cheap sneakers. Yeah, whatever. Like, well, no sneakers is all the foam in the secret. Yeah, as a matter Well, yeah, it's street water, hepatitis galore. So here's the thing about the hepatitis. If you'll be you'll be you'll be sitting there and you'll be on the sidewalk and you'll see you know, the lower part. Yeah, it's flooding and you think Okay, cool. I'm gonna walk on this sidewalk where they have these beautifully designed squares of concrete. And when you step on, it's gonna squirt hepatitis rate up your leg, drape up your leg. There is what because you think oh my god, these seams are so tight. They're so close together. There's no there's no cocking. There's no grout, there's no like, you step on one of those and it's gonna have his head tilt sideways and it's gonna come because what do they do? They're not graded. There's no, there's no Pac stone and no sand. Yes. What does Sam do when it rains?

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See, you end up with this little, but the cool thing about it is

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your mobility is gonna be great though.

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It's like your frickin surfing on the side. But some for some reason. It's cool. Yeah. Why is that?

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We strange. We might be

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friggin amazeballs sounding strange. Up top. I think basically, strange is synonymous with amazeballs. In fact, if you were to look up amazeballs in Webster's dictionary, which just so we're clear, better And be their absolute absolute fucking Absolutely. Totally is um, they're probably as synonymous. Yeah, that's strange.

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Absolutely. Yeah. That'd be our picture.

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Yep. Pretty much next to each other going like this. Yeah, yeah. In fact I think that we should probably have a minimum of seven of those every podcast sounds like a good seven High Five it's a good so let's make sure we're oh

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my god I just slammed right past me I don't even know my own strength so yeah there's some strange things but rainy season is an interesting one and once you've gone through your first rainy season here, good you know what, that's a great point because I thought okay, what's the rainy season gonna be like, you know everyone's like oh I'm just gonna be Buddha and again we grew up in New England yeah so I mean there's thunderstorms so it's not anything like this but it's at least a trajectory in the right directions because when I came from San Diego the rain there is it's non committal it's betraying its betraying its friggin annoying. There's it's just like so. Oh my god did some jackass leave is where it's drizzle, it's friggin drizzle. And you can't really do anything because you're gonna get wet. And then of course, the streets because it's Southern California had been dry for the last 90 days. thin film of oil or water. Yeah. Ridiculous. So we're here. It rains for five minutes. Yeah, there's a well outside. Yeah, you're golden. So here's the thing right? It rains hard It rains heavy during rainy season. Once you understand how to navigate rainy season as a bank hockey and yeah, you're good. Right. Is it Kochi in Bangkok? And I'm not I don't know if I'm feeling

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real cocky. And but I mean, okay.

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You're almost Bangkok in a couple more months. We'll call you Bangkok

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all year. Fair enough.

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So, but once you learn how to navigate, especially if you're a BTS dweller, like Mike and I MIT dweller, like, you know, like, hey, look, the bottom of this stairway is gonna be flooded when it rains. So I gotta you know, going out, my boy Ben. I'm calling Mexican man even though he's Thai. What's next? He drives his scooter. He owns a construction company. Okay, he's like 12 crews working for Jesus all over the city. Good for him. awesome guy. Yeah, right. And so he drives his scooter between sites all day long. He's got like one of those big like, bigger than a PC x type of scooter. Like a big cruiser scooter.

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Oh, like feet way up kind of thing. And

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like the platform on the bottom okay. can fit like two days worth of groceries and

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his whole family's on there. Yeah,

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so, but he can go. He goes all around the city and so rainy season like, he just he's out there riding? Yeah, doing it up. You gotta get used to it, man. That's the thing. You got to make it happen. Here's your thing, too, is if you're on the BTS ear over here and what I discovered is it starts raining like crazy. Yeah, just hang out on the BTS platform after you get off the train. Yeah, because you can buy ice cream drinks. pharmacy. Yeah. Get your nails I mean, you know, right haircut, get a haircut you could get you couldn't necessarily get groceries. I mean, every now and then it's not a Watson.

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Well, no. So those are the mrts right?

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No, no, no, no, not at all. Yeah, the MRT they got a full mall

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mall and

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what do they call those?

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You know, the one like when you're cruising. Okay, so from Paula you go downstairs and then obviously going to take those other stairs. Yeah, if you take that first super sharp left, and you go into that hallway that goes into a mall? Yeah. It's called something and it's in the bottom of many mrts Oh, yeah, it's um, it's not central something but it's like that's

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like a subterranean little alley mall.

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Yeah, but then there is food court half

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of the mrts

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Yeah, like the one right outside of Fortune town for example is a huge one. Yes. If you go underneath because you're going from that MRT stop to the you go from fortune town through the MRT station to Central Rama nine Yes. Now but yeah, that's like a whole little mall under the Yeah, crazy. Yeah, underneath the street. The one the one that also has like an on Annie's pretzel. bakery, right? Like to barbershops, okay, no, yeah, shocker. I didn't know that. Yeah, I don't really seek those out I guess anyway.

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You went once and look what happened Yeah, exactly.

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Like that shampoo is pretty effective. Doesn't seem like it you just kind of blew your lifetime value as client

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Yeah, I'm getting there

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with those headphones on you look you look quite Mike Yeah, I mean that's the facial hair it was three days growth pretty much yeah good for you that's the testosterone you got flowing through your body gotta get

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on that that Tony huge

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CRT I mean anything that relates to huge obviously I want to do it

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you know gave me some of the supplements when we hung out last time

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and so what specific ones though? I mean, they weren't he didn't give you testosterone or give me growth hormone for your COC or just growth

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hormone in general to bulk up

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Yeah, kind of thing. Yeah. But I mean, how many did he give him a model that say I love the people I mean at Costco, right? You know, the Costco the standard thing you go on a Saturday, you can basically have lunch the whole day, cuz there's so many samples of everything. Okay, yeah. Would you like to put that No chips. Yes. And then I love it. I'm in the vitamin aisle, and they're like, Oh yeah, we're gonna try some of this vitamin C. Vitamin C

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instantaneously. I'm gonna be healthy. I

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mean, I guess a month's supply one bottle. Really? Yeah.

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Yeah, I was just because he was talking about his new blend kind of thing.

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His formulation. Yeah. Okay. It's like and it's got the lab haven't tried it. I was gonna say Are you a little reluctant? Are

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you like, Well, you know, Tony's a pretty normal guy.

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I've got I've got a research what it is. I don't know what I don't just take what people give

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me fair price wise move.

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Yeah, exactly. I've tried that before. It didn't work out. So well.

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Yeah, me too. Otherwise, you might end up going to the same meetings I do. On a regular paces just to maintain. But yeah, so no, he hooked me up. I'm grateful. Right. Cool, dude. Um, but yeah, I was like, I gotta look at what's in it and like, figure out, but yeah, I mean, dude, he goes to the gym every single day a couple times a day. Yeah. So I mean, if a guy like that gives me something that says, oh, Mike, this is really gonna help you bulk up. Like, bro, you're pissing through 3500 calories a day? Yeah. If I ingest one third of that I gain weight. So I do this for, like, 3500 calories a day and he's banging like 12 women a day. Yeah, well, people have that and a lot of times Rose is videotaping this entire me. She is like a gauge there. Rose man. If you guys don't know what we're talking about, thank God, there are cards YouTube, because we can link right to this frickin video. Tony huge interview for four and a half hours of stream either that or just go to our channel and type in the word lady boy. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. Did you do any sir? ladyboy discussions when woody was around there? Is that a little bit too risky? What is? What is a little bit? Uh, not not, not into the ladyboy discussion? Fair enough. He's very, he would he's very much about being safely on the right side of the line. Okay,

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that's fine. I mean,

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I'm very much about

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both feet over. I'm good. Here's the deal, dude. Here's the line. His you and me. Yeah, fucking all day long. Yeah, baby. Boom. I peek again. I think I blew it out. Get me God. So friggin important. So after we do this BTS thing, and again, that's going to be kind of a rolling thing. Yeah, we're gonna have to go out and we're gonna have to do several because obviously, there's going to be times when I'm away, you're away. We're both not sure that we can, you know, have those sort of in the can. But we need to have like a series. And if we miss one, then it would be a little bit odd. Yeah. Our thinking initially is north to south. Correct, right. Yeah. So that

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was whatever it is now,

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and that is so ridiculously far away from where a lot of tourists would go. Yeah, it's gonna be very non Bangkok. So it'll be interesting. Like as we get closer and closer to tourist Central. Yeah, you know, it might even be more difficult for us. Yeah, because we're gonna have to fight. We're not gonna go to another Plaza. Yeah, we're gonna go to terminal 21 sighing can square What are we gonna do? Jesus Christ? Well, I'll tell you what we're gonna do is we're gonna walk all over the platforms. Yeah, because there is an entire city at BTS level correct. That is just amazing. And you cannot see it from the from when you're in the BTS. Yeah, you have to exit and go down one level. Yeah. And then you're like, they built an entire street. Yeah, like it's this giant sidewalk. I mean, I don't know how much something like that costs. That's crazy. I mean, did BTS pay for it? Probably. Yeah. There's also you know, one of the other things like when you're Siam, or like chitlin, like all these places that are kind of like, oh, but you know, like, shalom. Punch it not far from lupini. Yeah, right. Sure. So you can get get down to there. But also like sign there's all this other stuff around sign because, you know, like, l sewing studio and Siam. Yeah, the same square, but you would never know that Scala theater, which like a lot of people didn't know about like, it used to be my favorite theater. And then there's all these other shops like my optometrist is down there. I think that's gonna be the key, right? In other words, everyone knows Okay, a sock. What do I do with a sock? Okay, you go to the right and go to terminal 21. What do I do at prom Paul? Yeah. So am quartiere or I got it. Right. So there's a hidden food court at Siam that will show people big time. I can't wait for that. We actually, I will tell you that after coming here six or seven years? Yes. I checked out the food court in Terminal 21. But it wasn't until I went there with a local Yeah. Where I was like, oh, there's like more of it. Yeah, babies. It's quite large. Turn 21 food courts pretty good. Yeah, as far as food cheap. If you guys are shopping mall food, right? It's cheap. And it's legit Thai food. It is legit Thai food and that's everything too. Because if you and I were back home, like especially in New England, right? Very Contessa borrows. And you say to yourself sad one of your buddies. Yes. I took this girl on a first date and we went to the food court

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at the mall.

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Loser. Right? You do that with a Thai girl here? Yeah. Awesome. Yeah. Real baller. Like, wow, you don't want to get off the street. I mean, it's going to be the same quality food we get to sit down. Yes. Jesus Christ. This guy's full on Yeah.

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making it rain.

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Big time, dude. Next thing you know, I'm gonna go to take to take it to the movies and we're gonna rent a couch. Yeah, get a free blanket for half the price of one ticket in America. Popcorn for three bucks. Customer Service. Yeah, you guys, you go to the one where it's got the button. No, no, no. Are you okay? Yeah. So you press the button right and lights up and they come out waiter. Yes. Yeah, absolutely. And I've seen that here. Usually, like I said, we used to go to Scala 3030 bought popcorn. And, like 15 bought cans of soda. I will say that the movie theaters that we're talking about ie the luxury ones in air quotes. I mean, the the price of popcorn there is kind of ridiculous. It's not United States. Ridiculous. It's still up there considering what popcorn cost to make. Yeah. And the price of the ticket. Yeah, I mean, it's, you know, it's a little but like, you could pay for popcorn what you pay for a ticket? In fact, I think that is the price of it. I think maybe that's what I mean. includes a drink. That's 21 150 baht for the large popcorn. The ticket is 170. Well on Wednesdays, right? Yeah. And then or No. Is it the same price every day? They're

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Wednesday every almost everywhere in Thailand. Wednesdays are cheaper.

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Okay, yeah. You know the place. So we're familiar with a is DC, which if you guys know, oh, here's the other thing too. Did you know because you're you and asked guy.

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Yeah. Okay. Oh, no, I don't have a football member.

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Okay, I was gonna say cuz if six months free Netflix premium. Wow. It's pretty sweet. Right? So not only are there no ads, but here's the beauty of it. You ever watched Netflix on your phone and you're somewhere and you want to just like you know, say battery, shut it off. And the minute you shut it off, you lose Netflix? Yeah, this now plays in the background. Oh, and I can download anything. So I pay for Netflix. So how is that different than I'm sorry. Sorry. Did I say Netflix? I meant to YouTube premium? Sorry. Sorry, sir. Of course I bought Netflix. I mean, we all own Netflix. When I'm waiting for Disney Disney plus to come to Thailand. So yeah, I'm not a big Disney neat. There's no big Disney need. I will say well, Big Star Wars and marvel. But okay, that I get that. I get that. So with my A is home plan. Um, no phone plan. I did get Netflix free for 30 days. Okay. Yeah, so that was pretty good. But yeah, so YouTube premium with a is this is what I was talking.

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What does that cost normally?

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That's a great question. I want to say like, five, six bucks a month, because I totally I just upgraded my iCloud. Yeah. And in Thailand is like a 10th of the price of the US. And so you got what 200 gigs. Total? How much is it per month? $3 99 bucks.

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Wow.

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That's a pretty good deal. two terabytes is $10 three a month. 349 Yeah, yeah, that's actually about same price. I mean, my Dropbox is 99 bucks a year or two terabytes. Now I think iCloud in the US is like $50 a month. $50 something like that. Yeah.

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$600 a year. I don't know dude,

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I'm pretty sure that's what it was. I my phone is filming us right now. So I can't

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son of a bitch. I know

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you probably left yours downstairs.

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I did leave mine downstairs. I didn't really want you know, I mean, I don't want to impress you by Google or something. You know, I mean, cuz if I need it Yeah, I might have to go to ya. Just ask jeeves. I you know, I mean, look at it dogpile is there's a lot to be said for a web crawler. I could crawl it if I had to. I mean, either if I really want to go back well then Wayback Machine go for gotta go. from the command line. Cheese's? How cool are we? How much FEMALE AUDIENCE do we have now? panties out there. Listen to this episode. He's gonna go for dropping to the floor. I want to have these guys for my frickin next Chippendales audition? Go for it. Ah, damn, what if you could still go for?

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Oh, yeah, I mean, all those commands still exist in unit.

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Yeah, but there's the infrastructure to pull the information still exist? I think it does. Because all it is is querying something of finite amount of the data that's out there but that's a good question. Like I don't know if you can what was finger yeah finger I don't know if you could like finger somebody. They'd be like, dude, just use Ping. Like, pings been around but you don't need a finger somebody. But anyway, all right. Well, that's not a trace route. That's just basically let everyone know that fact God we already have girlfriends because otherwise we would not be getting away. Yeah, definitely not.

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Normal women our life would just be what?

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When I can make math jokes and jib gets it, like Trust me. Yeah. Yeah, that's unique. So that is gracies in a different sort of history. Right? Her her her history is just a little bit different. I mean, definitely grew up on a farm, but worked in a very high tourist area, you know, so became very street smart without becoming brash, or like cold or edgy.

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She hasn't knifed anyone yet.

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No. I mean, she's she's ridiculously female, which is lovely. Right? I mean, that's the other thing that might you might find strange. You leave the United States. You come over here. Women are nice. They're women. I expect us to be men. They're a nice woman in the US. I don't want to say all are bad. No, I'm not not but there are enough. Yeah, we're like coming over here. And finding someone as a mate. Yeah, it's just like pretty goddamn refreshing. Yes. Let's face it. You know, David here is definitely and also in Thailand in particular. I believe this is a lot more women than men.

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Yeah. Just in the society. So and also in Bangkok.

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Yeah. And so in Bangkok specifically, so like, you're kind of its fish in a barrel. Yeah. I mean, well, it's fish in a barrel, the Philippines, especially as a foreigner. Yeah. And but you know, it was I was talking to Jim, I think you were actually in the room, but you might have been doing something else. And she said something to like the effect of because I'm walking back to the BTS and it's nighttime. She says to me, she says, Okay, well watch, you know, you want to take a you know, the big red kind of thing. No, no, I'm gonna walk. It's no big issues are dangerous. So yeah, I know, there's no sidewalk, but I mean, I can I walk into oncoming traffic, and I would, and I said, Well, don't you ever do that? She goes, No, no, no, I don't do that. Cuz someone's gonna, like, hit me pull over, you know, and they'll just drive away. Yeah. And I'm like, What? I said, you think they're gonna do that to me? And she goes, Oh, no, you're a foreigner. I'm like What? She was no, there'll be less likely to do that to you expensive. Yes. Maybe you were listening or did you just know that you told me this? I told you this already. But I mean, is that right? I mean, but but she's Thai well educated. So it's not like she's like, Oh, yeah, me and all my girlfriends that work at this pool hall. No, no, she's gonna friggin

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masters. Yeah,

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you look at her. She, you know, no, no, I

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get that. But my point is that her description of this? Yeah, seemed really almost like, Wow, I didn't really think that that still occurred. Yeah, you know, like, I say, okay, so you look at me like what do you see? She's like, you're wealthy? I mean, that's definitely so. You don't have dreadlocks as a white dude. Yeah, you're not wearing elephant pants. Ladies, dude, you're not you're not wearing a chunk t shirt. Right? Yeah, there's a there's a look right. So you see someone wearing a button up shirt? You know? Right, you know, well put together like clean

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sweating like a pig.

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Like a pig under his body condom. But I mean, like he like Yeah, not not a shitbag digital nomad drop shipper from Shanghai.

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No stereotypes.

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Christ, he's showered because I can't see.

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Right? Yeah, yeah. He's not Indian. So probably racism through the roof. Yeah, so no audience potential there but

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alienated 1.7 billion

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people thanks.

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God this Chinese out there.

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Well led the next episode.

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Ah, give it time.

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So but you know, looking at is definitely like, you know, not like your average for on keynote. You know, and for on keynote for on keynote birdshack guava for wrong. Really? That's the literal translation of course. Yeah, cuz I know. lava. Yeah. Okay. So it's like the this basically when the birds eat the seeds out of the guava, they ship them got it. And then it becomes a guava tree from Keno, which is someone who lives in Chiang Mai and dropship and then sells the class about dropship success. I love

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that

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you know, I've made so many millions but I tell you what, what really pleases me is teaching all of you how to do it for only $47.

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Yes,

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right. You made millions. And now your income stream is $47 chunks. And you filmed in your 2000 baht a month apartment in Chiang Mai

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broke, friggin

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broke on your on your Samsung Galaxy one. I will say the majority of those losers as we're describing right now. They all seem to own max.

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Yeah, well, that's what they spend all their money

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is I'm not gonna spend what is

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it? 60,000 baht.

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This was like 90.

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Oh my fucking god. I mean, again. That's how much my Mac was in the US three grand. Yeah,

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forget it. Dude. Same price. Yeah.

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Speaking of which, actually, we're gonna be having an episode drop, which is going to be you know, helping me go buy a new laptop. That'd be a vlog. Oh, okay, on the YouTube channel. Hold on a minute, though. Are we going to do that? Because I need one. Yeah, we were gonna do it Tuesday Tuesday after we do the live stream. Yeah. But you don't have to go pray it comes tomorrow.

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Really? Yeah. What

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do you get like four days shipping? Oh,

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yeah, so you're gonna pay Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. Okay, and it's the GoPro nine right here. Oh nine black with the medium odd dude. Yeah giant. I mean it's got such great stabilization electronically you don't even need it

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Voodoo shit like this this camera does like Voodoo.

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He could like sit like I could be three three and ones in so yeah, holding this thing. Don't need a gimbal don't a gimbal though. I wasn't able to get the ND filters for for like shooting outside. So if you want to be able to slow your shutter down and neutral density filter, it darkens the lens. We're gonna

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do 60 frames a second on that.

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You can but no shooting 24

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Okay, that's fine. Yeah, cuz 720 Oh, she did.

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No, you'll do a shoot, I'll shoot it in 4k, really? I should probably shoot it in five k 24. And then and then I'll blow up to I think 4k is better with the stabilization. But yeah, makes sense for you to buy like 4k, but it shoots five K, okay. And so it's got this feature it has it comes with a, you can buy a lens, a mod that's not available yet. It's 155 degree angle view. Okay. And so it's got a feature built into the camera called horizon stabilization. Okay, a horizon leveling, okay, so you can rotate the camera and it keeps the horizon level digitally. But now, when we finish everything else, I'll show you a video when you shoot on the with this lens, right? You can spin the camera 360 and the horizon stays level. It's Voodoo. I mean, it's fucking Buddhist electronically electrically. It makes sense to me, because all you had to do I mean, it's got probably three gyroscopes in it. Right? More than that. But yeah, they put a video up in the sample, and you're going know where the guy is in a plane, huh?

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Oh, got it. And

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you can see the horizon behind him. Yeah. And he barrel rolls in the horizon never moves. See now I can understand why that might be kind of cool. You know, for a little bit of this, but a full tilt. Like, if you're moving the camera in that motion. Yeah, you would think you would want to change your view for making a trip. So like, if you have a subject? Yeah, the subject stays operate. Yep. Or the subject flips, but the horizon stays correct. Oh, so the background stays the same, but the foreground thing goes with the camera. Yeah, so the guy is in the plane. He does a 360 interested in the horizon never moved. They put that video out like maybe five days before the camera dropped. And me and my buddy Josh bourbon beer. Yeah, we're chatting. Like, what the fuck is that? Is that a new houches It's talking Voodoo. And this thing was what 400 500 600 603 5350 like, if you yet to subscribe to the GoPro thankfully he year that's included because they want you have the subscription. Be I think it's normally like 499 was like 350 or 300. But 299 Yeah, so like, so it will come here it will be full price. Mm hmm. So I see even paying for shipping. I saved like a stupid amount of money. So they're just they're just, I mean, literally day one. They're available and they're discounting them already. Yeah. So they want what is they want you to sign up for that month long YouTube. So the year long YouTube subscription looking long term this guy's

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gonna be using. When did they come up with new models annually?

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So yeah, this is funny story. I bought the eight the GoPro a year

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this still hasn't shipped as of the Mexican

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so delivery. So what happened was my buddy Josh was supposed to come here. Right and it didn't work out. He couldn't make it here for January and so he hung on to it. And I didn't want to ship it because I'll get fucked with duties. I'll get fucked with duties and shit. So, my Eric's brother, okay came to visit. Yeah. Josh shipped it to Eric's brother. USPS delivered it two hours after he left for the airport man. So he got back home. He shipped it to my buddy, Greg magon. Who's he lives in Chiang Mai, but he's living he was home in Arizona when COVID hit. So we get stuck in Arizona. Okay, come back. So he shipped it to Greg who now Greg is in Mexico waiting. He's trying to get that new 90 day. Yeah, he's a special tourist visa. So he's waiting on that. Okay. And so he's got my GoPro and a few other things for me as well. But you don't need it anymore. Cuz What do you have? Seven. It's up here. What? Okay, well, how many of those Do you have it like since the beginning? Yeah, give a three or four or five or six or seven. I think I've got I've got a three a five in the sub. We're gonna have to take some cameras out on the end. I got this baby and I've got a nice this is my yi 4k. It's actually a nice little camera. Yeah, no, totally the the the Chinese ones. I have the

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I've got these little light SJK

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Yes, J Campbell is pretty well. Blow out my lens. Is this a? Is this a saramonic?

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No, that's a road.

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Okay, fair enough. Nice. All right, we'll get anyway we're gonna be using all this stuff when we do the BTS. Oh, it's in there. Okay, this one? Yeah. So this is the eight. Yeah, so what or no, this is a seven. So what we'll do is like the the nine comes I get the media mode with is it has a mic built in. Okay, so much small and it's got a front camera so you can frame

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tone and a back name and a front.

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Front display. Yeah, a color front display color back display. It's a little bit bigger than this. Maybe I don't need this adapter because it has a microphone mod that you can add on to it. Okay, so I'll use that for like all the vlog stuff. Maybe I'll have you carry the seven. Yeah, no, we should totally do both. I mean, if nothing to be Roll while we're doing I mean the editing will be a bitch but we got to figure out we got to outsource all that and then when that when the when the eight arrives

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carrying two or three cameras I think

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the nice thing is like we'll shoot them a job and plus I've got the Fuji film and the two cannons

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yeah yeah for sure. It's like a great quality

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Yeah, so we'll always be able to shoot like B roll stuff like what

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you're gonna get a what we are way off topic is fucking awesome. Actually how far

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we're like 130 in

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I mean, do we want to just let I tell you what let's just do this. Let's keep it to the strange that we've done so far. We've obviously teased what we got coming up with BTS as well as all the other strange in bang I think we talked about doing maybe street food and the malls as well we definitely got to do that. But I mean again, it's gonna be the majority of what we're going to be doing is non tourist. Yes. So you know with that coming and we're not we're not doing street food from like to LA drop fi. We're gonna be going to like these little like local spots. Yeah, for sure. Like the fried chicken guy in front of seven.

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Yes. Who's friggin epic? I'm probably gonna grab some of them away.

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I would argue. Um, you know, Thailand's fried chicken is probably best in the world. Yeah, definitely. Yeah. Because here's the thing, and it's not just like the guy in front of 711

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every guy in front of every 711

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and every fried chicken. Well, you know what's funny? The lady who I buy fried chicken from guess where she puts a cart? front of seven. Absolutely. Gets it amazing. That's the other strange thing. You put a cart in front of 779 states what the hell you're not paying permit Get the hell out of estimate. Yeah, absolutely hear. It's like you walk up to the set. Sometimes you can't even see the goddamn door. Like if you're one on one where I'm at you like walk the unless the sign was up there. I'd have no idea because from the sidewalk into the door the 711 there's like a lady with a sewing machine. There's groceries there's like I mean it's just awesome. So much available. Yeah, yeah. All right. Well, we I think we double clicked on strange. I believe we had all right. All right. So guys, until next time, stay stream peace.