Dana Blouin

What's going on everyone? Welcome back to Bangkok strange. Today we have a very special episode we got two guests. You guys have heard Eric Prince aka minority Nomad here on the show before he's been with us, Eric, welcome back. Thank you for having me. And of course we have the small bodied Dr. Tony huge Bangkok or patio resident right? You're here just chillin in Bangkok be swell, swell friends of freedom. So, Tony, thank you for coming by the show. And as always, my co host, Mike Summerville. Greetings. Good to see you guys. Thanks a lot for coming. Yeah, so glad you came by Tony man. When Erica reached out to me I was I was joking on your, on your Instagram because he was posting from your birthday. And I was just kind of like leaving like fucked up comments. Because I always do. And Eric knows whenever you post a question on Instagram, like he asked someone to like fill shit, and it's gonna be something fucked up for me. Just falter. Always fuck. Oh, just a bit of everything. Yeah. And I was like, I can't put that I can't put that. So how old are you? Because you just had your birthday. How would you

Dr. Tony Huge

turn just turn? 38 years old really young? Damn very

Dana Blouin

younger than me.

Dr. Tony Huge

Wow. Yeah. It was a great birthday. I met every dream everything I could ever want out of a birthday, which I could never do in America. I could never have a birthday party like this in America. I mean, unless I was party with Dan bilzerian.

Dana Blouin

Yeah. Yeah. You're like the Dan bilzerian of Thailand.

Dr. Tony Huge

Yeah. And the Dan.

Dana Blouin

Dan bilzerian is the Dr. Tony huge of America. That's a better

Mike Somerville

fantasy picture of this birthday. I mean, I'm sure there was one maybe two girls involved, right? That's every guy's

Dana Blouin

ex 20. Yeah, exactly.

Dr. Tony Huge

Well, I actually I raged for about 48 hours. And you know, I grew up in thinking that I was never going to have a girlfriend cuz I was a nerd. And I appreciate the attention from a women so much, right. One of the reasons I like being in Thailand so yeah, it's one of the reasons I started bodybuilding and building this physique so that I could attract more women. So my perfect idea of a birthday party is a lot of women so that's what we had. We had Eric and I Anika we had maybe four guys and 20 more than 20 women, there's

Dana Blouin

definitely like a 10 to one ratio or something going on. It has to be it was a lot of ass like to like, we find that much thick ass in Asia. Good rain. Yeah. So before we get into it, because a lot of the audience will know. I'm a stickler for details. Dr. Tony huge, but you're not a medical doctor. You don't claim to be a doctor of jurisprudence, a lawyer. Yep. And so we were talking before we watched your your was that FBI deposition or CIA?

Dr. Tony Huge

DEA? Well, I did have a number of different organizations investigating me for many years, but that was actually a civil deposition

Dana Blouin

lawsuit. I said,

Dr. Tony Huge

Yeah, but he was collecting evidence in order to use in a criminal case against me. So there was a big conspiracy with multiple government agencies and civil litigants all coming at me at the same time sharing information to ambush me from every angle.

Mike Somerville

In the US, though not here in USA.

Dana Blouin

This guy sounded like a douchebag. He was giving you a hard time about like, Why do you call yourself doctor and like, you do have a professional doctoral degree at jurisprudence doctor, as someone who spent a long time working on a PhD, and people take the term doctor way too seriously and even said in the deposition, chiropractor's wants you to call them doctors and they're quacks. Right, right. So you could have a doctor to design a doctor of jurisprudence, Doctor of masturbation doesn't matter if we had Dr. Dre, I could get

Mike Somerville

one of those.

Dana Blouin

I could be Dr. Dre. You could you could go to a You don't even have to have a bachelor's degree. You can go to Chinese medicine school here in Bangkok and be a doctor of Chinese medicine. People call you doctor. I was in the army. Eric was in the Air Force. What do you call the medic in your unit? Doc? Yeah. I've never been in a unit where the medic who I worked with, everyone didn't call him down. He called medic. Now, of course, I know. Hey, medic, or a sergeant know a doc.

Mike Somerville

Right? So master's degree. Yeah.

Dana Blouin

And, and you even said it's a name your friends coffee. So

Dr. Tony Huge

when I first became a public figure, I didn't want to hold myself out as a medical doctor. So I did make it clear to everybody. And I also said that, you know, as a lawyer, there's also a lot of legal advice. I couldn't give people because I would lose my license. As a doctor, there's a lot of medical advice you cannot give people or else you will lose your license. Look what's happening in America, right? Yeah, essentially, doctors are not actually able to give their opinion on anything without getting censored and reviewed by the medical board. Right. So I had this huge advantage of knowing biology and chemistry of the human body and how to be enhanced, but being a doctor from a different field. So calling myself a doctor, but being actually able to talk about medical stuff that other doctors will not be able

Dana Blouin

which you can legitimately call yourself I want to throw that out there. So legitimate, you can call yourself a doctor if you have a doctor of jurisprudence, yours. Most people just don't. So what but I remember I used to watch some of the old enhance athlete videos that you were put out there. So I know. I've seen videos where you even said I'm not a medical doctor, I have a doctor jurisprudence, but I knew you were not a medical doctor because I want to get and I want to give you about something, probably the dumbest thing I've ever seen a person do. And actually, so I showed my wife this video when when I first I was a few years ago and she's like, and she has a she was a nutrition researcher before she owned her business back in the day and she was just like, oh my god, what the fuck? And so when I told her you were coming over, she's like, who was like the guy from that video? And she's like, oh, okay, so you're in Vietnam, I believe. And you're hanging out with some like older British dude might have been like 60s talking about HGH. And you guys were gonna, you were showing him I guess, consulting maybe with him. And the pack of HGH was powder. It didn't come with sterile water. Right? So if you remember this video,

Dr. Tony Huge

yeah, it's funny because I've done you know, 5000 videos, but I actually remember this exact one. So

Dana Blouin

what do you do it doesn't come with a sterile water here in a pharmacy, they don't have sterile water. So you're a buyer, you buy a bottle of cold drinking water from the from the the cooler the frame and you you call it reconstitute or rehydrate recons you reconstitute the HGH, and then you inject it sub q with this guy. I'm just like, what the fuck like why would you do the doing this in public? Is the pharmacists people the pharmacist is like

Mike Somerville

I'm gonna sell this guy so much antibiotic Yeah, it's gonna be

Dana Blouin

great. So did you get an infection from that?

Dr. Tony Huge

No, not at all. I've done it many times before I wouldn't recommend it. I would recommend using sterile water be a sea water but he was funny when you go to these other countries and people live as America we as Americans, we think they live filthy right? It just seems dirty when really it's not no

Mike Somerville

yum system. We've no bum guns in the eyes. Yeah, plenty of them here.

Dr. Tony Huge

But you're but it changes the way I think of things like if I was in the US, I probably never would have injected bottled water. Yeah, but here I am in Vietnam around sort of filthy. I feel I love filthy. Yeah, it's real, right? But it changes the way that I think

Dana Blouin

Vietnam is filthy in a way that Thailand's not to it's like, like Cambodia Vietnam have a certain grind me and might have a grind. They have a grind.

Dr. Tony Huge

But nothing compared to India where everywhere everything you touch now as a film of India, little

Dana Blouin

bit of dirt and mud solid start everything, a little bit of curry. So that's like the one thing that always stuck out to me. So I told him I was like the guy who reconstitute the HGH with drinking water just like oh my god. But then also how does a pharmacy not have sterile water in stock? We know when you can

Unknown Speaker

also Yeah, absolutely.

Dana Blouin

Like you can buy this stuff over the counter, right? Like you can buy. So like I take on I take a anti aging regimen and part of that is a baby aspirin I take every day. I can't buy baby aspirin in Thailand without a prescription. But I can get testosterone and I can get Viagra. I can get testosterone at the pharmacy and I can get dick pills on. So I love it. Right. So, you know, it is crazy.

Dr. Tony Huge

This is the wonderful thing about traveling around the world and each destination you get to pick up what they have available for the best price

Mike Somerville

and then before you know you got a suitcase full Yeah, like when Dana's in Thailand. Obviously plenty of dick pills. You know, Vietnam you're like,

Dana Blouin

me and Anderson silver taking those Thailand dicto

Mike Somerville

filtered water

Dana Blouin

when he tested positive for an estrogen blocker though, because he said because he was a it was in a details he got from Thailand.

Dr. Tony Huge

Yeah, that's a trick actually. You can take an estrogen blocker to boost your testosterone. Yeah, true production. Okay, it's actually a performance enhancing drug to take an estrogen blocker.

Mike Somerville

So you're known for like performance enhancing bodybuilding, you know, physically working out, but also like ingesting various chemicals that really and I guess that's the real big controversy, right, which is the whole

Dr. Tony Huge

I take a lot of controversial experiment of things kind

Dana Blouin

of a biohacker. Right,

Dr. Tony Huge

right. And I want to show people that some of this experimental stuff is actually safer than the stuff that they consume every day and their American diet of toxic processed foods. We have to keep it relative

Dana Blouin

Oh, I don't want to talk bad about the processed foods is the FDA. I enjoy, go buy corn people. Corn syrup is definitely bad for you. Right, like, but go ahead. I'm just joking with you. I'm talking with you.

Dr. Tony Huge

Yeah, it's important to keep everything relative I mean, that's how people try to manipulate us as they they'll use the news to sensationalize something is very bad but related to other things we're not talking about that are much worse. You got to keep it relative.

Dana Blouin

Here's the other thing too and like someone like you and I consider you a biohacker like when I watched the the enhanced athlete videos, you're trying shit, but you obviously have your normal routine that you do but you're like, Hey, I'm trying this HGH I'm trying this new, a different protocol. That's very biohacker like same with me with the anti aging stuff that I take you know, and all that but you know, there's such a misconception or a misunderstanding of science in America as well right one study comes out that says 10 rats out of all Hundred in a study that was done for four months develop the brain cancer when they drank 2000 milligrams of caffeine a day. Don't drink coffee. Right, right. Or, oh, there was a study in a specific breed of mouse that shows testosterone causes tumors and blah, blah, blah, don't take testosterone, and they gave it

Mike Somerville

5000 milligrams an hour.

Dana Blouin

Yeah, exactly. It will it and that's how, but this is the thing. So science is intuitive, right? Like that. That study proves one thing about dosage and whatever. But then

Mike Somerville

they apply it to something totally irrelevant,

Dana Blouin

but then it requires peer review, and other people to go out and then say, okay, what's the next step for this? And then Okay, let me try sciences actively trying to disprove everything that it does. And then sometimes just go, fuck it. I'm gonna try this. Yeah.

Dr. Tony Huge

So the challenge for the average American citizen or any citizen is how did they get quality information, they can actually make a decision on writing and when the media gets to choose which studies get attention, and you only have 10 minutes a day to digest this information, then you're going to make a decision they want you to make now if you actually have 12 hours to research a topic and look at a medical study and look at all the other contradicting medical studies then you can arrive at your own decision but nobody has the time to do that. That's the kind of thing that I do though I dig deep I research and then experiment on myself because I don't believe it until I see it and feel it and experience so

Mike Somerville

let's talk a little bit about the experimentation I mean, obviously there's something to be said for trial and error right a lot of experience from that you're like have you ever gotten to the point where you're like holy shit I completely got this wrong my left arms fallen off I got like blue in my face I got to go to a Western hospital and get have them slam me with Western medicine just so I can survive.

Dr. Tony Huge

I've not needed a western medicine hospital for any of my experiments going wrong, but I have some had some near death experiences

Mike Somerville

like on a motorbike but

Dr. Tony Huge

I No, no just like experiments exactions and things. But I also know that if I go to a western medicine doctor, they're not going to be able to treat me any better than I can treat myself okay, I can treat myself better than a doctor

Dana Blouin

unless you need equipment.

Mike Somerville

Right exactly. Or a surgical procedure Yeah, we're

Dana Blouin

here in Thailand where the hospitals are like five star hotels are better equipped than made every

Mike Somerville

BTS stop as a five star hotel

Dana Blouin

talking about near death experience Eric almost killed me like like a month ago. What emotionally Eric Eric gave me some edibles

Erick Prince - Minority Nomad

there's that problem is some good shit coming around. Yeah, you gotta be careful Santa's got told you look Tony got to be careful cuz this stuff coming moderation. And

Dana Blouin

what I know like my normal like I know what I can normally take right it's Eric's like these are five milligrams each 10 milligrams is kind of like it's like a pretty good like if I'm trying to get into creative flow 10 milligram THC, um, I can get there right and like, do some work and

Mike Somerville

he's shaking his head.

Dana Blouin

He gives me two chocolates. He says these are five milligrams. I even checked with them beforehand, like five milligrams a Yeah, five milligrams, like triple B's like but the cookies 15 right. Big Boy. I'm like, Alright, let's I take both of these. And I'm doing some work. And I start to feel a kick in. So I start I pull out the iPad. I'm doing some design work. All of a sudden like I'm just like sweating like crazy. My watch starts beeping because my heart rates peaking up at like 165 I'm like What the fuck? So I fuck out like I pound like for baby aspirin. I'm like am I having a heart attack What's going on? Like it my heart rate gets it's like 185 at one point I'm like literally sitting in this rocking chair. I have downstairs I take naps and I've got like my my my massage thing like pressed against my chest. I'm like should I now the week before I was like I should have bought that oxygen condenser I was like fucking die because I took these two poop bucket chocolates ever Gallic No way. Those are five milligrams. so far. Like I saved the readout from my fucking heart rate screenshot. It peaked at like 198 my heart in like two hours my heart rate was above one new Facebook profile like it should have been I was like, like a fucking die and I pass out on the floor. Wake up like an hour later. Just like like sweating just fucking drenched in sweat. I'm like What the fuck? I almost died. He's dying. He's like perfectly I told you man, this is not 10 milligrams. There's no way 50 milligrams. Like I thought I like literally I was like hearing shit. I was seeing style. I just like in Unreal.

Dr. Tony Huge

This reminds me of my my media guy who traveled with me all the time. He ate a rice krispie treat. Yeah, and it had 400 Miller's halfway through it. The funniest thing is he forgot how to walk forward. But he remembered how to work backwards access. So he would just walk back everywhere. And he would have to turn around and look where he was going and then turn back around and walk backwards in that direction.

Mike Somerville

Okay, so this sort of stuff happens to people all the time. People aren't as like educated as you they

Dana Blouin

don't drink milk.

Mike Somerville

Obviously, he was like, you know, I'm not experimenting on myself, give me the media guy. This guy can walk backwards like the fucking best of them. But like, so this happens, right? And this she's describing pottier this happens to people all the time. They do nothing like they do in pots. Yeah, people lose their mind come to potty as long as I don't fucking die. I'm good. So do you interface with these people? And they're like, Tony, like, you got to help me. Dude, I cannot go to a hospital because I get arrested. But like, what the fuck should I do for this?

Dr. Tony Huge

Yeah, I in Yes, that's right. potty potty is definitely charity. And I get friends that get caught up in it. And they come in and out of that. Yeah. The good thing is if you're a smart individual, you don't want to be feeling this way all the time. Right? You don't want to be hard on your person. So it kind of goes in phases, which is kind of like the the American CEO party hard play hard lifestyle, right. They work so hard during the week, and they just rage a couple nights a week. Yeah, it's like The Wolf of Wall Street lifestyle. So a lot of people do that. And and that's maintainable. The problem is when you do it too frequently, and it becomes a chronic problem, and it tears it down fast. He has given body rest. And also this rule about not overdosing on the first experiment. We all want to be treated with

Dana Blouin

10 milligrams is 10 milligrams to me. I'm like 10 milligrams a normal dosage. That's like legit five each. Okay? Fuck you.

Dr. Tony Huge

I did 7.5 and I thought I felt like I was floating. And I know guy who would use and I could usually take 10 so it's very, it's a double pole. Your

Mike Somerville

body's probably pretty clean, though, right? I mean, if you give it sort of a hallucinogen, that sort of thing, it probably affects you a lot. Like it's a lot more cute for someone like you versus someone who's been drinking all weekend, right?

Dr. Tony Huge

Yes, because I do a lot of experiments, but I rotate between different pathways and different receptors. So I keep most of my receptors fresh all the time. God so I don't lose sensitivity to anyone drugs.

Dana Blouin

So are you on a protocol right now? Like what what are you doing now? Currently, like what's your what's your cocktail of choice

Dr. Tony Huge

for performance enhancing drugs to maintain this physique? Which is like 8% body fat? 211 All

Mike Somerville

right. Okay, all muscle. You might need a bigger t shirt. Yeah, they make them in

Dana Blouin

you know, they make stretch fabric.

Dr. Tony Huge

The tighter the shirt, the bigger I look, you can

Mike Somerville

do that incredible hulk thing. I'll give you a fucking thousand dollars. Right? Yeah, green everything. Awesome.

Dr. Tony Huge

So it's surprisingly small amount of stuff to maintain this people would think I have to train a lot after diet a lot. Yeah,

Mike Somerville

you hit the gym every day. I'm

Dr. Tony Huge

just cruising. I do go to the gym every 20 minutes on Instagram more than I do lifting weights. I do a lot of content. A lot of people do a lot of videos. And it comes in bursts. Like I might do one week where I do everything right. And I put on 10 pounds and then I just cruise and 10 pounds in a week of muscle. Yeah, yeah. And then you just slowly cruise and just cruise on that muscle you gained and slowly lose it over time. Who's

Dana Blouin

the dude that did like everything's like 18 year old bodybuilder did everything Boston Lloyd Boston Lloyd Yeah, close friend. And he he's like, he hasn't gotten too much bigger though, since like, he looks horrible now compared to when he was like what 19 after he did everything he looked dope is then what does he not respond to it anymore though?

Dr. Tony Huge

His problem is the training but he won't admit it. But I trained with him and he doesn't train hard enough to push himself past the threat. Are you

Mike Somerville

talking about the physical training or technical training?

Dr. Tony Huge

Okay, so his drug regimens are fine, they're great. His nutrition is fantastic. His sleep is good. Everything's good except for I think he's missing

Erick Prince - Minority Nomad

Yeah. Sorry about that. It's like when you when I hear people complain I've never been on steroids before obviously. But people make fun of and talk shit about somebody who's on steroids. I'm like well, okay based on Yeah, you have to put in the work yeah. In the gym working it pushes them to a new level.

Dr. Tony Huge

Well, studies and experiments show that if you take a little bit of steroids you will gain muscle and lose fat and feel better, but it'll plateau provided you're

Mike Somerville

working your ass off

Dr. Tony Huge

after no after about a month gain muscle and lose fat for a month just without doing anything. Okay, so there was actually that you completely plateau and then you're not gonna make any progress unless you actually

Dana Blouin

level you get to so there was a 45 day human trial. And I may not be remembering all the specifics, but I believe there was a control was no drugs, no exercise, there was no drugs exercise. There was drugs, exercise and drugs, no exercise. What kind of drug steroids I don't remember the steroids are just straight tasks. But or, or something. I don't remember the specific drug regimen but it was it was a PD It was a testosterone steroids type of thing. And so group group with the largest amount of muscle mass was drugs in exercise.

Mike Somerville

Yeah, right.

Dana Blouin

But number two was not no drugs exercise. It was drugs, no exercise. Yeah, that makes it well, like it was number two was a 45 day study. Right and you can't you get a snapshot at 45 years. Obviously more work has to be done. But like number two and number three, as I recall, we're not even close, like in lean body mass increase. So no drugs and exercise was like my new gains in 45 days, whereas drugs no exercise is a huge game,

Unknown Speaker

like, foundation of honors is exercise, right? Yeah. Well, you gotta

Mike Somerville

get or is it dying? I mean, because I gotta tell you, I lost 50 pounds. And it was, it was like 90% diet 10% exercise. I mean, it wasn't trying to bulk up, right. It was just trying to get rid of my gut kind of thing. Like a lot of people are in the US, right. And I realized it was like the it was the fuel that I was putting in, you know, this one engine I get for the whole lifetime. But it was but it was like 90% died. In fact, at the beginning, because it was with Kaiser Permanente, it was a controlled, you know, medically supervised diet. They said do not exercise because they basically get you get into ketosis, right. So you're basically eating the fat is the energy. And then they're like, Whatever you do, do not exercise because it might start eating all the fat and then it starts eating the muscle. Is that

Dr. Tony Huge

accurate? Is that the Yeah, we have me curious Kaiser puts you on a ketogenic diet.

Mike Somerville

Yeah. So it's actually impressive. Yeah, it was pretty good. And actually, you have to be more than at least 50 pounds overweight to go into this. And you basically do, you know, shakes like five shakes a day. And men, as you probably know, lose the weight a lot faster than women, right? Which is really frustrating for them. And I can totally get that. But I was at the point where I was losing. In six weeks, I lost 50 pounds. But I lost all the shitty weight, right? And then I was like, really lean, and then I got all excited. And then I was like, doing the correct diet and everything. And then someone shows up to work with doughnuts, and I'm like, these things are fucking awesome. I'm going right back to it. And so, but I wasn't like, Okay, what am I supposed to do to maintain this exercise wise? I was like, No, no, no, it's the damn fuel that I'm putting in this engine. And I got to get my shit together. So with the, if we go back to the time where you're like, dude, I got to get better looking. So the girls will talk to me, like, this is like 1516 1718. And then let's put like, go through son of a chronology of like, started there and then said, Oh, well, yeah, I want to get laid. But I also want go to law school. Like Where did that sort of transition? I want to be really smart. But I also want to look, you know, like, I'm really taking care of my body

Dana Blouin

and smash crazy. Yeah,

Mike Somerville

yeah, absolutely. Just pounded.

Dr. Tony Huge

I started lifting when I was 12 years old, because I kissed the first girl when I was 12.

Mike Somerville

Got it. You're like, I'm doing this.

Dr. Tony Huge

And she was this American. She was totally American style. And she was like, I want a boyfriend with ABS. And I was like, What are cabs so I ride to the store and I looked at the

Dana Blouin

old home girl knew.

Mike Somerville

I want a girlfriend with a vagina. So this is gonna

Dana Blouin

be nice. On the 12 I'm not

Dr. Tony Huge

worried you'll grow into one. So I never got that second kiss from that girl I worked for it was like a carrot and a stick to never chase so it made me kept pushing myself further. And I even knew in my head. It was a fantasy that I was ever going to be with this girl. And now I'm glad I'm not because she's like super white trash. Yeah, that's like,

Dana Blouin

that's like I mean, I hate to say this, but like a lot of the chicks who were like super hot when I was in high school. Yeah, like a frumpy white chicks. I mean, like, I'm not I'm not looking like Tony. Huge, but I'm like,

Mike Somerville

No, you go back to your high school reunion it like 30 I could live in in California. I live in

Unknown Speaker

Bangkok, Thailand. Especially when your your public life is awesome. Yeah. Slaton knows dmws Oh, remember me. I remember having

Dana Blouin

a chicken fil a the chick from my sister, the girl from high school hit me up on Facebook. And she's like, Oh, I see you live in Thailand. I'd love to come out and visit you reconnect. And I'm like, I have let me know when you're gonna come out and I'll talk to my wife. And if we have time, we'll meet up and take out a fucking hamburger. Never messaged me again.

Dr. Tony Huge

Sand to the beach. And yet I tell my friends you know, we got a nice feature. Why are you gonna bring more stands? Yeah.

Mike Somerville

Okay, so you're going through you get through high school and you do your 10 carry yourself? Like why? Why law of all things? It was my dad's dying wish. Okay, got it.

Dr. Tony Huge

Yeah, he died when I was 20 years old. So sorry, school when I was 21. Yeah. Where'd you go? We California Lincoln law school in California, downtown and I went to I was actually still finishing my bachelor's degree in business at Sac State at the same time. Okay, so it was daytime Sac State and and then nighttime law school and work every possible minute in between for your sleep. So your

Mike Somerville

dad is like, super proud. And then sadly, he passes away.

Dr. Tony Huge

Now he died before he got to see anything about it. And he wasn't really proud when he died. You know, that's like a traumatic thing that we all share. Like, yeah, daddy issues. Well, that's supposed to be for now.

Mike Somerville

I know. Yeah.

Dr. Tony Huge

Like you want your parents to be proud of you. And I always wonder like, would my dad be proud of me?

Mike Somerville

So I'm quite certain, right? I mean, let's face it. So okay, so you have this pedigree? And then you're doing what kind of law what kind of law were you practicing afterwards?

Dr. Tony Huge

I I've always been an entrepreneur. Even when I started my first job, I guess was probably when I was around 12 years old selling candy on the school bus. Okay, so

Dana Blouin

it turns out that chiqui kiss, that's where he was like,

Mike Somerville

he invented the candy girl that's like, this is working fucking great. Chick will do me for a Snickers bar. I'm in

Dana Blouin

12 year old and to his bottom bitch Yeah, that's why I never kissed her again.

Dr. Tony Huge

Skittles if I only knew what women psychology of women was, then I had it completely backwards, right. But I guess I had to go through this painfully long journey of terrible American relations. In order to appreciate what I have here in Thailand.

Dana Blouin

It is it is a very different mindset, right? The average submissive buys a very real thing. I think people don't if you don't live here, you don't get it right, though. You know, whatever, and much more accepting and obviously, we come from a place of economic privilege by comparison. So what are your takes on the um, the differences there?

Dr. Tony Huge

You know, the Thai women, okay. There's something also I realized more recently, there also can get very controlling and possessive. So they start off with a Thai girl, they instantly start taking care of me. Yeah, they just start worshiping and take care of me. And they they act like they're not jealous and they act the perfect they know how they just they know the act of becoming, they want to become the girlfriend they want so bad, they work so hard at it. And then there becomes a point where they fall in love, and then you become their possession and it becomes dangerous, potentially violent. So from jealousy,

Dana Blouin

violence. Yes. You live with two girls right now. Right?

Dr. Tony Huge

Well, I have one main girlfriend rose and then we she's bisexual. So we have other girls come over frequent. Okay. In the beginning, it was just a big party was a lot of fun. There was no jealousy. And then as more it goes on, she gets more possessive, more jealousy other girls more drama, and that's kind of what I'm juggling.

Dana Blouin

You guys also like a very open thing, right?

Dr. Tony Huge

I would love for her to date other men because her sexual appetite is far beyond what I can satisfy. But she she she won't. I mean, I'm even trying to help her. Tinder profile is very

Unknown Speaker

real. Like we've talked about this. Like I'm polyamorous. I do not believe in monogamy, right? It's fucking insane to me. And everyone, whenever I say that people say to me, Oh, is it okay for her to fuck other gods? Yes, please. That's

Dana Blouin

actually a holy adopt. Yes, Eric is actually super legit about it, too, because I'm going to share this the first time

Mike Somerville

you guys had

Dana Blouin

I'm sure Eric will mine I'm not gonna name names. But like he he could have smashed a really hot chick guy that we both know. Right. And he didn't because he's like she says she's poly. But she's not. Oh, yeah. No. Like, I don't want that. I don't want that for her.

Mike Somerville

Right. He's like, I'm giving these pot brownies to Dana. Yeah. And it's 190 BPM. Damn,

Dana Blouin

it will be tight.

Mike Somerville

clenching? No,

Dana Blouin

but I mean, like Eric's up front about he's honest about it. And I'm like, you smash He's like, he's like, not because she says she's Polly. But I know she's not

Mike Somerville

saying all that bullshit drama.

Unknown Speaker

Exactly. You know, it's gonna you know what's gonna come out? Yeah,

Mike Somerville

you'd like fine. I'll come but then not Jesus Christ. I gotta deal with her.

Dana Blouin

My phone number and ex

Mike Somerville

boyfriends with bats coming to your front door. And I mean, I made a friend told me that might happen.

Unknown Speaker

But no, it was. It's funny. Like when Tony says, you know, Tony, you've been here back again. What? Six months out?

Dr. Tony Huge

Yeah. Let's let's call it seven months. Yeah, you know, back in Thailand back

Mike Somerville

again. And

Unknown Speaker

I think that's when you started dating rolls around.

Dr. Tony Huge

I met rose on a previous trip and then stayed in communication. When I came back then she became my girlfriend. So

Unknown Speaker

your range is six to seven months for this transition to happen. My range is like three fucking nights.

Mike Somerville

No, because they got bigger. They have to show up as being polar. defaults. They gotta hurry up.

Unknown Speaker

Absolutely. Like you said we were just yeah. boyfriend. Right. Right.

Mike Somerville

But they act like but that's a very different lifestyle. Right? I mean, it's, it's kind of on the edge. And I have buddies that do that. And that's their biggest frustration. The girls show up and they're like, Oh, yeah, no, don't worry, my husband won't you know, mine, or whatever, you know, and then all of a sudden, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. Yeah. And so I mean, but this is a transitioning third sort of thing, right? Like you guys are getting to know each other. And for those of you just watch not watching on YouTube and just listening to the Baka roses in the room, right? Yeah, actually. And so but to that point, clearly you guys have a very communicative relationship. There's none of this behind the back horseshit hundred percent but you're not like one of these guys it Elian

Dr. Tony Huge

Yeah, I'm just 100% open. I even have a YouTube channel. This relationship starts tomorrow. Okay, I published my relationship conversations with multiple women.

Dana Blouin

Nice. And you're also like, you dabble with the lady boys too, right?

Dr. Tony Huge

Yeah, I like Lady boys. I don't like anal sex. That's the funny thing. But I like the novelty of the lady boys. I like the fact that they know how to seduce a man pre op

Dana Blouin

post op doesn't matter.

Dr. Tony Huge

I've never been with a Well, I've never been with a fake vagina that I know. Yeah. Some of you were

Dana Blouin

it was amazing. It was an amazing thing. I saw one

Unknown Speaker

triple eight.

Mike Somerville

I was like this surgeon is a friggin artist. This thing Yeah. Epic. So I six. Yeah.

Dana Blouin

So have you ever been the enhanced me in a ladyboy sandwich?

Dr. Tony Huge

No, I've never been with two lady boys. Huh?

Dr. Tony Huge

Thank you for this you know,

Dr. Tony Huge

pen and paper.

Dana Blouin

Dana, this is for you. bros take notes.

Dr. Tony Huge

Rose, but rose finds lady boys fascinating. We have had a threesome with a lady boy. But on pretty much everything you can imagine us three together was pretty amazing. I actually, you know, I tested my jealousy. I watched the ladyboy have sex with Rose ladyboy penis go. Yeah. And you were like, and I was like I was I was curious. I'm like, is this gonna really freak me out? Is this gonna make me jealous? And I was like, No, this is like super cool. And it was relaxing. Like, wow, it's like satisfying rose. I don't have to do the work. She's she looks beautiful. The ladyboy right. Like I'm having sex with two women. Only she's actually satisfying some of Rosa's requirements, too, which takes pressure off me.

Mike Somerville

But have you seen her before? That? Had you seen her have sex with another man?

Dr. Tony Huge

No, I've never seen her have sex.

Mike Somerville

So this is the first penis off the

Dr. Tony Huge

table. Now you know it early on. It was off the table. But now it's like I just can't keep up with rose. She wants so much sex I am so tired of it. So

Unknown Speaker

if she finds another partner to the level of cute, same breath, social economic status, the same looks the same basically a fucking carbon copy of you. And she has a similar relationship with Him as she does with you. Is that okay? Yes,

Dr. Tony Huge

please. anybody listening?

Dr. Tony Huge

tagged him.

Mike Somerville

You know what's funny is like the majority of people listen to this United States. Yeah, they don't even know how to spell ladyboy right. And I would submit the first thought is Oh, this guy likes having sex with Lady boys. He's gay.

Dana Blouin

We gonna set up a Google a Google Analytics track for the search terms on ladyboy after this after this episode drops it's gonna be like, tag lady but but

Mike Somerville

if you're over I think I would submit if you live over in Thailand for more than three weeks, meaning you're not just over here on vacation. You quickly realize Wait a second, guys that have sex with ladyboys that's not a homosexual thing. That's like a it's like

Dana Blouin

Thailand. For so it can be sure Sure. Sure. I think if you're gay, you're gay. Right? Like you like dudes like the masculinity or whatever. You don't want one with boobs.

Mike Somerville

You don't want the next three hours with their makeup beautiful hair usually. Right? I mean,

Dana Blouin

yeah, I think like, it's it's a different mindset. Right? And like, Who the fuck cares? Yeah, like

Unknown Speaker

it's a matter of if it's

Dana Blouin

two adults. consensual.

Mike Somerville

Yeah, who the fuck no, no, I mean, I'm with your with many people. Don't listen to this. These guys in this room. Obviously, most people in the United States. Unfortunately, they're just listening to this thing. I want to go to Thailand someday. I'm just gonna fantasize about it all year. I'll never go I'll never commit. I'm full of shit. And a lot of my buddies. I want to be just like Dan and Mike. And then they get over here. And they're like, I can't fucking handle this. Yeah, there's like Lady boys there. And but like, when was your first experience that made you say, Oh, this is this is totally cool. This is totally normal. Oh, yeah.

Dr. Tony Huge

It was good. Describe? Yeah, I was 30 years old. And I came here on a sex tour. Okay, this tour no longer exists. And

Dana Blouin

there are more there are sex tours.

Unknown Speaker

Yes. Republic, Colombia.

Dr. Tony Huge

So I went to all these Asian countries. And it was totally different than I thought, yeah, it was amazing. It was enough to make me actually want to move here. Right. I didn't realize like how much fun these women were and how much they loved their job and how quickly I could connect actually on a deep level. Which sounds ridiculous. Oh, you just they're just being paid. No, these girls love

Dana Blouin

what they do. So I'll definitely say prostitution is very different here than in America. Prostitution is like crack whores with doing math. missin t are really expensive.

Unknown Speaker

Games. Yeah,

Dana Blouin

yeah. Or it's like porn stars of 5000. Tonight. Yeah, here. Right. It's just a big part of the industry. A lot of that stems back to I think a lot of it goes back to like the king opening up. You know, America to gi Yeah, the Vietnam War. They start coming over here and economic opportunities, economic opportunity, whether you're selling, you know, hamburgers on the side of the road, or you're selling for burgers on the side of the road, right? People saw the opportunity and it just came from from that sort of relationship. But it is a very different thing. Like there's no I'm sure. And I'm not saying there's no human trafficking that there's no enslavement. I'm sure that exists. There's bad shit everywhere. But you walk down so like cowboy like no one's forcing girls to do they're not so insane, unarmed, those girls are lining up to get those jobs.

Unknown Speaker

Hold up, hold up. I'll be the guy in the room. Okay. I think I think it's dangerous to say things like that. Okay, only because, as as first of all as men who don't see that side. Yeah, as foreign men, we don't see that side. And we understand how talented women are when it comes to suppressing the negative impacts that men or industries have on them, the levels of abuse that they have to deal with, on a daily basis that we just don't fucking see. Like, quick example, a friend of mine asked me as a trader How many times do I worry about getting raped? And she's a woman like as men in your fucking life? How many times do you even think about fucking never getting raped? Never. It's something we never deal with. But it's something that women did think about every single

Mike Somerville

day then add on the ad industry. And they think about it every single hour. Exactly.

Unknown Speaker

And how many times have these girls, these women had to go with a client they didn't want to go with?

Mike Somerville

It's funny. I have these discussions with guys that look like you know, first of all, we're pretty, you know, most people in my life. They're pretty nice guys. They're cool, guys. They're like, Oh, yeah, she wanted 1000 baht fine. If she wanted 2000 baht, I'll give her I don't give a shit about that, right? And I'm not gonna like smack her up against the wall or whatever. So that's her one guy that day. And then there's I'm sorry, but fat, sweaty Russians that are coming. And she's like, okay, I just got to close my eyes and like, take it. There's probably a little bit more protection in that scenario, certainly with like a cowboy and not that sort of thing. So there's that level of safety. But I mean, in your experience, Donnie, I mean, have you had Can you can you I mean, I can empathize with that. And I totally, I'm stoked that you brought that up, because that's a fair. That's a fair point. But in your experience, you know, doing this interfacing with these girls,

Dana Blouin

guys, we gotta pause for one minute if you don't want air conditioner.

Mike Somerville

Yeah, they just arrived. I need some more water. I can switch cards.

Dana Blouin

Alright, so that's a quick break. My air con needs to get recharged. So appreciate you guys hanging with me. So before we took the break, Tony, you're about to talk. You're about to shoot Eric down on his social justice warrior human trafficking bullshit.

Dr. Tony Huge

Well, we're talking about how some of these women have to do things they don't want to do, right. But Don't we all? I mean, when

Dana Blouin

I was an engineer, I did a lot of shit. I didn't want

Mike Somerville

I hated working in a fucking cubicle. Like Yeah,

Dr. Tony Huge

I there's a lot of things about being a lawyer. I didn't like doing tax to my health. And I felt like a process. Sure. As a lawyer, I mean, maybe it's not my like my penis that third but it's like my soul. Sometimes you have to represent a client. You go in thinking that you're representing the right person, you end up you're representing the wrong person. And ethically you have to continue and for your business, you have to continue and you try not to make that mistake, but you're representing

Mike Somerville

felons. I mean, no, I wasn't a criminal defense

Dr. Tony Huge

attorney, right. Mostly financial law attorney, real estate, bankruptcy, business reorganization. Okay. But I handled a lot of different areas of law when we talked about how I started practicing law. I since I was entrepreneurial, I just put an ad up on Craigslist, and I just started taking cases hundred dollars an hour, right? And I would only I would actually only bill for one hour for every 10 hours I worked so I was only making $10 an hour, but we're working 16 hour days. So

Dana Blouin

it's like you're an intern for yourself. Yeah, I

Mike Somerville

wonder you felt like a prostitute. I mean, I get it. Yeah,

Dana Blouin

but I just want like Eric So you said real quick to me before we continue cuz I want to let Eric talk about this a bit because I don't necessarily fully agree with you like I think in Thailand Of course this human trafficking right like I've been up north and I've seen like, some shit like when I lived on Patreon Tani right. There was definitely there was definitely a few spots that were very questionable.

Mike Somerville

Maybe less there's human trafficking in cans.

Dana Blouin

Yeah. But of course we know what I went to undergrad hands This is probably quite a bit of human jam Russia Ukraine, but but I'm saying like, like, the mean, spots are most tourists go in, in Bangkok. Right. Nana cowboy doesn't putana Tong? That's right. It's a I think most of those girls are fighting for those jobs like to get in those sort of spots. And yes, they do stuff they don't want to do. Do they want to do a gangbang? With 12? dudes? Probably not. But if the cash is right, in, you know, I don't think anyone's forcing him to

Unknown Speaker

do it. It's not. I mean, there's an economic correlation here. There is when when you when you create a world of inequality, and you advocate for that world. Yeah, you you are either intentionally or unintentionally creating situations where people don't have a choice. You don't

Dana Blouin

well economic inequality or like what

Unknown Speaker

do you put any inequality you want to add to it

Dana Blouin

specific to this situation?

Unknown Speaker

Let's say economic inequality or

Dana Blouin

so you don't foreign tourists with a higher GDP? Yeah,

Mike Somerville

that I can manipulate someone to they can use it

Unknown Speaker

as well as a government system of misogyny which ensures that women are marginalized or, or easily taken advantage so

Dana Blouin

that that's culturally systemic. Yeah,

Unknown Speaker

culturally, exactly, is

Mike Somerville

that there's a lot more content on youporn with chicks in it, then there is what guys yeah, that's just the reality

Unknown Speaker

is more demand. For example, women in porn make 10 times as much as men and porn is always pissed me off.

Dana Blouin

That's why I never went into porn. That was my micro penis. I'm like I can't

Unknown Speaker

do so my argument is never that. And you know, some or even a majority of these women don't enjoy what they're doing or not not even enjoyed the money. They enjoyed the money yet and they made the choice to go into this industry because I'm good friends with a lot of Sure. A lot of close personal friends and

Mike Somerville

prostitutes, some of my best friends.

Dr. Tony Huge

I mean, amazing when my baby mama number two as a parent,

Dana Blouin

that's why I chose

Unknown Speaker

but we also cannot pretend that we have social economic privilege here. A lot of these women

Dana Blouin

would that we don't pretend that we don't use Yeah, we

Unknown Speaker

cannot pretend that we didn't. Yes, yeah. And we can't pretend that the reason a lot of these women they're not being they're not sucking dicks because it's fun then Oh, I love sucking dick. Like if they made as much money say, flipping pizzas, they would likely choose flippin Peace Corps or sucking dick.

Dana Blouin

I was I would say, if I could make as much money flipping pizza as I did as an engineer, I would have because it's pizza. Right? But, but there's but look, I didn't like being an engineer, but I did it

Unknown Speaker

because of the money you want to ask? No, no.

Dana Blouin

I would, I would argue that my supervisor was definitely try.

Unknown Speaker

But um, but there are certain industries. Yeah, which there is a higher rate of abuse, and physical and mental. Long term damage. Yeah, you step back, you look at football, for example, all of a sudden concussions are becoming a more open conversation. They've been playing football for 200 years. However long football is going around right?

Dana Blouin

Now I'm pushing for 3000 4000.

Unknown Speaker

I'm not disagreeing with it.

Dana Blouin

But I agree it is a very high risk, higher fashion. Not higher, just high risk, like super high risk profession. hear from a lot of perspectives. Both, you know, you know, communicable disease, both physically physical violence, emotional violence, emotional trauma. But still, I think if you look at it compared Asia to the US, it's people taking advantage of an economic opportunity here choosing to do that job, because they don't have another earning potential of that level versus the US. It's some chick who's strung out and needs cash for for coke. Yes.

Unknown Speaker

Go ahead, go. I would I would be significantly more critical of the industry in the United States agreed. Because it's, it's disproportionately criminalized there. Yeah, it's anything this hitted is going to be ripe for abuse. I believe that human trafficking they're significantly higher than it is here. And they export from here

Mike Somerville

export from it, they don't import

Unknown Speaker

and, and you have a lot of women who otherwise would have opportunities to become doctors and lawyers, and you know, the first world superpower of the planet, but you have Thailand, which would be considered a third war nation. A lot of people outside of Bangkok are not making that much money. And these women are coming in to take care of their families, they're not taking care to support their drug and again,

Mike Somerville

they're not being chained down and brought here and I think that's probably what Tony wants to talk about right to free will thing

Unknown Speaker

I just caught I just caught the last thing I just caution this this this notion of the happy smile and prostitute that's presented to us and soy cowboy. When there's so much shit

Mike Somerville

in the background, that is their that is their forward facing act, their their performance to get the customers to come in

Dana Blouin

I'll agree I doubt every girl who's working on cowboy or Nana is, you know, emotionally 100% psychologically 100% right? So when you when you deal with, you know, when your economic system is based around dicks, right? And like five decks today that's can pay my rent or whatever, you know, it's obviously not not the greatest situation, but again, in the US, there's a documentary I can't remember the name of it off the top of my head on Netflix right now about our docu series. about some 17 year old girl who murdered john that he picked her up like outside like a waffle house or something brought her home she killed them went to jail she finally got they charged her with like first degree thing they charged her with either first or second

Mike Somerville

reason that she got why did why did she kill this guy some random chick he

Dana Blouin

brought her back to like he picked her up brought her back to a place like did the whole negotiation thing is she was strung out right it wasn't like she couldn't she like she felt unsafe and trapped he had a gun It was kind of paranoid It was his gun that she killed him with but eventually they let her go okay after like 15 years in prison though right they let him go not let it go with a the commuter sentence or whatever. But I think now Cambodia is a different story Cambodia is like child sex trafficking and like when dudes Tell me like oh I live in Cambodia my first law is fucking scumbag right like I got back there all sex paths Yeah, I got like I've been to Cambodia. It's like like, dude, you meet there like Cambodia meet like I meet someone who like lives in Myanmar. My first law is there an opium addict? Right? They're living in Myanmar because they like cheap opium and cheap possible there's

Mike Somerville

plenty of people in United States they're like, Oh, you live in Thailand? You must be a second. Yes. Yeah, but especially potty Yeah, you just say the word potty. Oh, yeah. The difference

Dana Blouin

is though like a sex fat in Thailand you have like a like a rose like a mature woman and you know, you know, whatever. Like that's the the idea of what a girl like that might be in Thailand. Whereas if you're in Cambodia, my first thought is you're banging kids, and you're a scumbag. I should probably kill you because it would improve the world. So

Mike Somerville

that's the stereotype that you have from it. But I want to hear from Tony Yes. Kind of the rebuttal to the what what

Dana Blouin

Tony? Tony's like no, I love the process.

Mike Somerville

You probably don't treat them like an asshole.

Dr. Tony Huge

No, I treat them really, really good. And this is this is where I get tripped up is I start treating the prostitutes like girlfriends and then I get taken advantage of right? In the relationships between me and prostitutes as me Yeah. Which is which is the opposite of what people might think. But I, I had a perspective shift when I tried to start hiring prostitutes for other jobs, okay models to keep me company all these things. And the general consensus was, their response is no, I don't want to take pictures. I don't want to just hang out. I do this job because I love sex. I want sex and I make money doing it and I love

Mike Somerville

it even if you paid more money. Yeah, they wouldn't do that like

Dr. Tony Huge

like they're not I'm not a model. I'm not a titan want to do this. I don't want to die. Like what I thought I thought I was giving them a better operation. Yeah, right. And they didn't want out of that. Okay. And back you have a lot of these girls who even have boyfriends that send them money, they have plenty of money. Right choose to keep doing prostitution because they just love sex. I mean, my my girlfriend's sitting right here rose. She loves sex so much. Like if she doesn't get it, she's a grumpy angry person up top. And I'm a little bit less I like attention. Like, right I just like I like girls worshiping me. I want them touching me. I want to feel like they strike me it's almost an emotional thing. A different Love

Mike Somerville

Languages kind of thing. Right? And it's sort of Yeah,

Dr. Tony Huge

yeah, it's the five lovely Yeah, I'm all about like the the physical touch attention Yeah, yeah, words of whatever it's going on. So and then I chose baby mama number two as she's a prostitute and I met her in a bar and actually went there to find baby mama number two because I love the culture of prostitution so much. I want my girlfriend's be prostitutes, I want them to keep working. I just there's something about the honesty about it. And it's something about just being the exact opposite of how I was brought up. Yeah, for sure. Here's feels so real to me. Okay.

Dana Blouin

So that's not that is that that is not my take but again that I'm not here to argue that it's wrong or right I have a different view on what I want from a partner. But I know guys, so you're not to me. It seems like you're not caught up in it like you're not you you love it you do it like it doesn't you own it. It doesn't own you. Well, I know a guy I think I told Eric about this dude. We call him bareback Walsh, he he came here married with a kid fell off went off the rails drinking fell in love with a girl who was her her first night working oddly enough, right? So I decided to wipe her up. And you know, she she brought him all the way until he left the country. Right. So

Mike Somerville

but guys get taken advantage of. Yeah, again.

Dana Blouin

That dude let himself exactly and I but here's the the paradigm of that. Right? I think it's much easier for a guy to take advantage unwillingly of a chick who's strung out on meth in Kansas than it is a girl who's out here doing it for for a living?

Unknown Speaker

Well, and also, you do have the socio economic aspect of it. Most people are most women who are brought up in a culture of misogyny Oh, where the patriarchy rules. Once a strong man who can provide for them and their phone? Yeah,

Dana Blouin

not gonna

Unknown Speaker

take care of us have a plan. So if a guy can drop 5000 baht at night, like it's nothing, she understands that from an economic standpoint, he can take care of her, he's likely going to be strong enough or big enough to take care of her. And she's going to have a significantly better life in general with this. And so

Mike Somerville

you're saying that but hit Tony's personal experiences? Yes. And I tried to give her 6000 baht a night to be a model. And she said no.

Dr. Tony Huge

They're all different, though. All generalized?

Unknown Speaker

Yeah, we're all generalized. But this

Mike Somerville

is his generalized experience. For example, whereas yours is I would give this girl 6000 baht to be my executive assistant, and she would do it all day long.

Dr. Tony Huge

And she would prefer to do that. Whereas his I think she would get bored. I mean, usually but but every girl is different. But

Unknown Speaker

I mean, also if you have if you have a woman who is happy, sexually satisfied by boyfriend, then

Dr. Tony Huge

this is the difference Eric can keep his women sexually satisfied. I can't

Dana Blouin

that's the other thing right? economic judgment. These

Mike Somerville

guys fist bump. My buddy.

Dana Blouin

right buddy up top. I love you, man. So So Tony's Tony actually pays Eric to satisfy his girlfriend, an arrangement that can be made. So here's one of the things that if you're a college grad, if you're Thai, you're a college graduate from Thai University, right? Your average salary coming out of university at 22 years old. 15 to 20,000 baht a month. Yeah, like so. That's 500 500 to $800 a month, right? All in right before taxes. Right? If you're at the higher end of a sex worker in Thailand, right you making that and half a day?

Mike Somerville

Oh yeah, in December. Haha. You're making 275

Unknown Speaker

easily. We went out the other night and I took the fellas to Google bar. And I mean this is a lien time, huh? Yeah for 6000 baht for tonight. And for a long time yeah long time the 6000 baht. Okay the whole note getting for easy. Okay, they get they're getting for easy what one of my good friends I know Eric doesn't go over 15

Mike Somerville

but where are you? I mean, were you in? Okay, cuz that's arguably not our cowboys the most expensive? Yeah.

Unknown Speaker

In the clubs and patio. Yeah.

Mike Somerville

Okay, yeah. 60 bucks. Right, right. 800 baht, bar fine.

Unknown Speaker

Eric, Eric gets a 4000 Yeah, Hey, man, he

Mike Somerville

just goes in and said, You think Tony can have good sex?

Unknown Speaker

They heard me on the podcast.

Dana Blouin

It's 1000 that he wrote off.

Unknown Speaker

But, you know, I wanted to go back to something that you said. why you chose baby mama too. Cuz?

Dana Blouin

Yeah, I want to get into that.

Unknown Speaker

Because your father of two girls, I don't think it's out of pocket to say that you put them on the internet? Would you be comfortable with them being in the industry? Because they're in the Philippines. They're in that world. So if your daughter at 18 says, Dad, I want to go go work in AC Angeles City. What would you say as a dad?

Dr. Tony Huge

Well, in any career industry, you have the bottom of the bottom and the top. So like in a law office, you'd have like a, let's say janitor. Yeah, right and then law clerk and then paralegal and then attorney and then

Dana Blouin

you would in turn be below janitor. Yeah.

Dr. Tony Huge

Well physically capable, you know, so. So if my daughter wants to be in the industry, I would hope that she shoots for the top and becomes a very high index squirt.

Dana Blouin

Or a mamasan right off the bat.

Dr. Tony Huge

Yeah, you don't bet on the business side leader the business right? Yes, that's it's it's less about the industry she chooses to be in. It's more I would like her to shoot for the top. She's gonna be a doctor. I prefer her to become go to Harvard, a very innovative doctor the train something new, not just a doctor who's a drone selling prescriptions under under the influence of Big Pharma, you know,

Dana Blouin

working for enhanced athlete selling. Joking, joking. But no, I understand. You're saying it's about expectation, right? And like, no matter what your kids do, do what do the best right be be the best. Yeah,

Dr. Tony Huge

and back to back to putting it all in perspective. So when we're talking about girls that are being manipulated or doing things they don't want to do, these are the very bottom right, just like any industry, this is in a, this is a cubicle worker was getting yelled at by their boss and miserable in America. And I think if you most if you give girls the opportunity to make five times as much money and not have to be yelled at by this boss in a cubicle doing a boring job that's leading nowhere. You know, the prostitutions not that bad. You just got I just got to keep it relative of course, abuse and traumatic, absolutely bad. But there's also traumatic things and other careers and industry

Dana Blouin

under those standards. If you gave anyone not just girls the chance to make five times as much as they're doing and not be yelled at not sit in a cubicle. Nine out of 10 people just gender doesn't matter would take that opportunity to how

Mike Somerville

many times as an engineer Did you hear about the guys that would be they would be in Saudi Arabia, they would be making 250,000 a year and not paying any taxes. Yeah. And you thought okay, well, you know what, that would suck but I'll fucking do it for three years suck it up bank all the money wasn't like Well, no, for the rest of your life. Yeah, if I work at Qualcomm, maybe I make you know, 100. But I got to do so I mean, it's all relative,

Dr. Tony Huge

I'm gonna tell you to give you two examples that I see frequently here in Thailand, okay, you've got a girl comes up in a small town, she can go work for the factory and work these 12 hour days, days, tires going absolutely nowhere. She could be fired at any time. She's not building skills, she's not having fun. And she's stuck in her little bubble. And she's a victim of whatever circumstances the government or society wants to put her in. That same girl, if she comes to a place where she's going to have sex with tourists for money, she's going to have a Yes, she's gonna have some bad experience, she's also gonna have a really good time. She's also going to be very educated. You notice these women, these prostitutes that interact with us highly intelligent, worldly people, they learn more languages, they become more, they get the access to travel to other countries with men, the experiences they get. So some of the, I'd say two of my favorite girls I've ever met in the world, were basically escorts at a young age, they learn many languages, they learn how to please a man how to carry themselves and I fell in love with two of these women. They were some of the most remarkable women and they never would have done it unless they became escorts and these are the ones that are smarter and harder working. They work their way up. They didn't just bang every night and not learn something from the night before. Every night. They learned something new, they innovated. They took that experience from the night before carried it to that and they grew as people and they have incredible both of them have amazing lifes now.

Dana Blouin

So that's, that's the type of person who is ambitious. They're going to be successful no matter what they do. If they're an escort or they're an attorney, or they work at a restaurant, yeah, they're gonna be CEO, every Managing Director they're gonna be doing whatever what they chose to do.

Dr. Tony Huge

So what I don't like this is what really bothers me at a deep level is I don't like these monopolies is something Eric and I could definitely grant we don't like oppression of people. Yeah. And and limitations on their potential. And what I see happening is, you know, they take away entrepreneurship businesses like this, the sex workers and all that. And then where do these people go? They go to factories and become slaves. And that's going to create even more of a separation between the monopoly of the owner of these factories and businesses. And then small business is going to get completely squeezed out as we see what's happening with the pandemic right now. Small businesses dying big businesses growing. Yeah. And the slavery is grown. Yeah, for sure.

Dana Blouin

Yeah. So why did you you talked about you chose, you went to the bar in the Philippines to find baby mama number two. You wanted to have a kid with a prostitute?

Dr. Tony Huge

Yes. Why?

Dr. Tony Huge

Because my I had a child. I was forced into having a child. That's funny, but a mom I was tricked. Yeah, I was tricked. She said she's on birth. She pulled the goalie trapped me. And it and it worked. never happens in the Philippines.

Mike Somerville

Yeah. Don't use a condom. It never happens in

Dr. Tony Huge

America is a Filipino girl in America. The leverage she would have Yeah, in America.

Mike Somerville

Let's be together. 10 years, I'll only take half.

Dr. Tony Huge

Mm. Yeah. 10 years is right. If you put past 10 years in marriage, you own the rest of their life. That's right. Most people don't even know that when they sign a marriage contract. They don't even understand what they're signing up for. That's the problem with the educational system. Right. Clinton,

Mike Somerville

California. I mean, that's a sport getting divorced. Right. So I mean, everyone knows that a 51% chance you're gonna get divorce.

Dana Blouin

You're a bankruptcy attorney. Right. So a lot. I'm sure a lot of people came from divorce to your office.

Dr. Tony Huge

Yeah, it always happens at the same time. So I see people fighting over money. Like I see people who loved each other, that shaped how I my perspective today, see people who loved each other, and thought they're gonna spend the rest of life together now trying to destroy each other, who maybe have $500,000 worth of assets, who are both willing to burn all that assets. So the other one does I get it?

Mike Somerville

I'm claiming bankruptcy so that bitch won't get anything. I mean, San Diego, I gotta tell you, I heard that from so many guys. Sadly.

Dana Blouin

My divorce was raped. She was scorched earth was her.

Mike Somerville

Was it 10 years? No, seven. Okay, so you weren't able to that's good.

Dana Blouin

I I got I got hit hard. And I thought at first I thought I was being a good guy. Right? Like, take you need to go back on the assets, whatever. And then this is where an

Unknown Speaker

agent right? She's Thai. Thai for Thai in America.

Dana Blouin

from Thailand we met in the USA

Mike Somerville

Okay, so you meet the Filipina in the in the US and that goes badly?

Dr. Tony Huge

Yeah, so I wanted something I wanted something to and she was very conservative baby mama number one it only slept with two maybe three guys aged at it even up to now pretty college 39 something okay. very conservative. And so I was like, I want the opposite. I want full honesty. I don't want jealousy. I want a woman that understands a man. I had some previous relationships with escorts that were really good. And I wanted that kind of open and honesty because I'm so open and so Right, right. And I don't want to have to teach a girl how to treat a man I want just I just want them to just know, you know, so I got a very experienced girl experience. She slept with like 4000 men that's experienced. Okay, Declan. Yeah. And and she knows knows exactly how to treat me. I mean, it feels so good to have a woman that knows everything I want and understands me and even I even I'm like, honey, I need to tell you something. I even start talking. She puts her hand on me. She says, I understand. You're a man. Right? And and I love you for that. I respect you as a man. You know,

Mike Somerville

focus. How many times have you heard about scenarios where a guy goes to a prostitute doesn't have sex with her. But he can't talk to his friggin wife. He's like, Look, I'll give you $500 just fucking Sit down. Please listen to me. Because I'm going to spill my guts. I'm going to show my feelings I'm going to potentially you know, demand myself I'm going to throw away my man card but I gotta cry in front of somebody but you're in front of my wife. She'll fucking take half of everything. So I can't do that. So you're going through that scenario with this girl in the Philippines and

Dr. Tony Huge

I also wanted to have a polygamous relationship okay and beyond plant polyamorous right? I wanted to actually live with three girlfriends or two girlfriends and they all get together they'll get along together we all play together. And I don't I still don't have that yet. Like I said it bring girls over for threesomes doesn't mean it turns into a relationship that doesn't end in jealousy. Yeah. So yeah, I chose baby mama number two and she got pregnant on the first try first oscillation was not

Mike Somerville

the goal. was the goal to get a girlfriend was the girl to get a family family. Okay, so you want your like if you get pregnant, awesome.

Dr. Tony Huge

Yeah, but I was hoping she would remain I was hoping she would tone it down a little bit not be so she was pretty wild. Yeah. But then she went 180 degrees like BORN AGAIN Catholic and now she's now she's extremely conservative. She finds it offensive if I post a picture with a girl and I always am. And I have to say like, this is me, this is what you accepted. So I was, I've been surprised I keep getting surprised that when these women fall in love, no matter how wild they are, or when they have a child, that chemistry changed her,

Dana Blouin

so she's not working anymore. No, she's

Dr. Tony Huge

not working. And she just wants to be a stay at home mom, which is great. She just takes care of our baby full time. Yeah, and spends time with family and she is not wild anymore at

Dana Blouin

all. They're just like that.

Dr. Tony Huge

So she truly she's the baby mama. Like she basically went through the process. And now you're like, I can't have a relationship with you like, this doesn't work. Because you're not the person you were when we first I'll still be with her. But I can't be with her all the time, because then I won't be able to be myself. So I have to turn it back now a loser. So the benefit is I got an even better mother. Yeah, but I I didn't get the person I thought I was gonna get in like my life partner, party with me and be a family and all that. How

Unknown Speaker

does that work? Rose.

Dr. Tony Huge

Rose understands that every girl like there's a priority list. So I still have girlfriends in the us too. So I have like three or four girlfriends in the US that I'll still continue to see. When I get the opportunity. I have baby mama one baby mama one being in first position, baby mama to being in last second position. Oh, she's a second. And then my American girls come after that. And then roses after that. So she knows, she knows if if a girl comes over who is a higher priority Rose has to go or, or submissive be submissive to that relationship?

Unknown Speaker

So I have a question. We've talked a lot about being men and what men one and we had to tone down our manliness in this aspect. And I found you on Snapchat years ago when I was in Thailand. You were in Thailand, and they were just kind of showing who else was in Thailand. You know? Who the fuck is this guy?

Dana Blouin

When Snapchat years ago, so you were sending him dictate I was sending them date pics. So is that I always thought that's what Snapchat was for. Then like my teenage cousins are using I'm like,

Unknown Speaker

Whoa, what are you doing? So we, I think what to expect especially for me being African American people don't see me there's this large conversation about what it is to be a man now in 2020. And one of the biggest reasons that I'm happy to not live in the US is because I believe that men because you're alive, I'm alive and surviving. And and men have been feminized in the US it's it's not okay to be a masculine man, alpha, alpha, what we would call an Alpha Man,

Dana Blouin

or normal guy that's

Unknown Speaker

not just yeah, just a normal guy. So for you being in a space and I've always found bodybuilding to be a little meathead he had, like, the guys tend to be very alpha very aggressive, very, not particularly intelligent. It's just my perspective over years. Not particularly intelligent, but those are the guys that you want to know oil rigs, which you are on a battlefield, which are these are the manliest of men. In your position as an authority, you're considered an authority on bodybuilding and, and the chemistry of men, and now kind of prostitution in Southeast Asia. And lady boys and Lady boys, you've talked for years about your perspective, changing on relationships, on on chemistry, on politics. What do you wish you would have known when you were 14 or 15 years old about being a man about being entrepreneur about being a bodybuilder about being just a boyfriend

Dr. Tony Huge

my biggest problem was being taken advantage of by women and not being able to be myself and you have these natural urges, like you want to have sex with multiple women. But you know, that says Like, that sounds like cheating on a woman is terrible, and you can't even talk about it. So like the polyamorous thing. And also, I believe that sort of like this old nobility thing where you can have you should have as many wives as you can afford, right? Because these women want to be taken care of. And it really does work like that. Like you can have a hierarchy. This is woman number one, this is woman number two and and as long as woman number two doesn't get more than women number one, I I would have told myself that this is an okay, this is an okay way to approach this is what feels natural. I think I did a good job at one thing, which is deferring my gratification till later. I think that men benefit more from really focusing on the career their life purpose, making money, right and younger years, and then going after the women later because women are such a massive distraction from a man's

Unknown Speaker

money, then get the power and then

Mike Somerville

you get the pussy and then the women wants you a lot.

Unknown Speaker

Yeah. The woman and then you can provide for them too. I mean, some some guys get off on like, Oh yeah, I didn't even have to pay for this girl. That's fine. That's like, okay, you're gonna put the in the energy instead of the money. Yeah, that's fine. But I think it really works well as you become a middle aged or older man, when you can provide for the women. And it's not like prostitution. It's just a fundamental anthropological biological system that just works between men and women, which is men. Do the business, make the money provide for the female, the female takes care of the family and handles Social Affairs, these are the roles

Mike Somerville

Yeah, basically grew up with I mean, like, I can lift 50 pounds, my girlfriend Can't I mean, and you extrapolate that, but what I think is really important, and what I what I get from knowing you all the guys in the room is that you're also not saying women can never do that. It's not like you're like, Oh, yeah, the man has to be the guy. No, no, no, but as men in the room and to the question, like if you had known it, 14, you know, right. And it's like, I completely agree. I mean, I'm 52. And you know, I get guys, I worked at a university, so I get a lot of 20 year old guys, and not a lot, some open minded enough to say, okay, old man, like if you were to do 20 all over again, like, what would you do? First thing I always say, take more risks, take more risks, take more risk, because you can always make up for it from 50 year old glasses, trust me, the other is a four you have responsibility, right? We absolutely build responsibility, your your ability to take risks decreases, you don't want to miss that opportunity to take risk, and then potentially learning more, you know, I mean, don't worry about hurting yourself. Yeah, you know, in, in limited capacity recover

Dana Blouin

a lot better a 20, then you do a 40.

Mike Somerville

But don't go recklessness, but you don't know that at 20. Because you can see right here, the second thing is in your 30s. Like you were saying work your fucking ass off and do whatever you can without hurting others to be able to basically add the maximum amount of value that means working 12 hour days, 14 hour days, hiring a shitload of people stuff you don't want to do outsource that, get that done, learn, learn, learn.

Unknown Speaker

And before making a major life decision, even if it's to move to a different place, or to go down a career path or go school. Get perspective. So my dad always told me that I should do it a tour through Europe. Yeah. So before I actually go to college, he's like, right after high school, tour Europe, then come back and go to college. And that was the best advice ever that I never that I didn't take, I did go down a hard path of actually real estate. That was my first sort of direction. And I did love it because I grew up with it. And it's a language that I spoke and it felt natural. To me, it's the family business. But if I would have traveled the world and gain perspective, my life probably would have gone I probably would end up where it is now like 10 years earlier.

Mike Somerville

I completely agree with that. I say one of the things gracies daughter who's like 13 right now I am working so hard at making sure she can get a passport and she can start traveling internationally because she's in the Philippines right? So she's got some blinders on that she doesn't even know about not the least of which is I would submit the university system there sucks ass. And I'm like, you are not going to be able to grow or become a better person unless you get the hell out of

Dana Blouin

university system. Even in America sucks. Like as someone who

Mike Somerville

So overall, yes, but there are also some very high quality universities and yet

Dana Blouin

the minority right, we have we have the best in the world. Those are the minority of the universities in the United States,

Mike Somerville

the 50 of them. Yeah.

Dana Blouin

Yeah, like, but in this one 1000 plus universities in the US college, universities, you know, and 5000, like whatever, but most of them suck in education, for the most part in the West is broken.

Mike Somerville

Well, the only good education is ridiculously overpriced. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker

And I also think most of us, you might agree with me on this, that the most important lessons we've learned didn't come from a class

Unknown Speaker

out in the world, for sure. I would have told myself, don't go to college, go to seminars,

Mike Somerville

and go to all different seminars to get perspective. So you see, so you can view the world through different lenses. But you say that, but don't you think that there is some degree of importance like in other words, the the path you went down to be a legal professional have to go, you don't have you don't have to go to school to take the bar, but there's a high likelihood that you won't pass it unless you're going to school kind of thing. Right. So I mean, but don't you think that was important? It was important for you to go through that because there was some follow through that you learn from that. There's definitely responsibility, you know, if you're taking it seriously, and there's an exchange for of money for education, which I would submit it makes it a lot easier for you to say I would go to seminars, because good seminars aren't five bucks. But seminars are like 1000 2000 7000 for the whole weekend kind of thing. But don't you think it's supplements it? You wouldn't not go to school, you would go to school, and seminar.

Unknown Speaker

Yeah. And they do it all yesterday. piggyback on that question, how do you choose what seminars go right? How do you how do you pick? Who is that authority, especially since we're kind of shitting on education? Because just because somebody is a doctor of something doesn't mean they know shit. Yeah. And you know, we've gone back and forth about COVID through the whole thing as I called

Dana Blouin

COVID. Israel, by the way, no matter what Tony says era masks.

Unknown Speaker

It's like your droplets. What do you choose? When you're picking these seminars, young men, you know, we're all you know. 35 plus But when you have a 20 to 23 year old making that decision about his life about who I should listen to, what advice would you give him, as opposed to say, listen to me? I'm Tony huge.

Unknown Speaker

I don't know the answer to that question. How do you know? How do you learn what you don't know? You want to learn? Yeah, yeah. How do you forget that? I guess, you know, that's the reason why things like traveling. So you're exposed to many different things. And you feel you might see, you might see something, let's say like photography, interest, you just a little bit, you might travel and see some professional photographer doing this picture, you might talk to him be like, wow, you made a business out, you travel around doing photography, I'd say that because I'm sitting next to Eric Right here, who is also a professional photographer. And then you may find out that you just feel a little itch inside you like, oh, that might be a little bit interesting. So you can go around, expose yourself to many things and see what you just feel a little bit of itch for. And then just do a little research on follow authority is to follow it.

Dana Blouin

I would even say, in my experience, experience is the best teacher, right? Like, for sure, I started my first company in 19, I learned a lot of shit that I shouldn't have done from that experience. You know, a lot of fucked up shit that I did that I shouldn't have, you know, started my next Company A few years later traveled and learn things that I wanted to do. You know, I'll say that education, right? Like if, if you fall through if you get a good education, and you don't need to pay to go to university to do this. Learning how to think critically learning how to solve problems is important. I think primary education in America, secondary education, America fails at that, right, especially like, you know, I was an engineer, right? You are not prepared for the level of mathematics you need as an engineer and university from high school no matter what you absolutely not. Right, right. The thinking level, the critical thinking level, mathematics, the whole thing, not calculus, like the lowest level. I mean, that's the basis. Yeah, like, I mean, you start getting into like, you know, linear programming optimization problems. You don't learn any of that until University. It's it's a huge jump.

Unknown Speaker

I use Siri to ask all my math questions. At that level, could you asks Can you ask Siri these questions with what's the

Mike Somerville

area under the curve? Y equals X?

Dana Blouin

Yeah, like, like, Siri, I need to I need to solve optimization on a routing problem. Can you know

Unknown Speaker

we should try this? What I should ask Siri like, what is the best here? Siri, what is the best first steroids cycle? Let's see what it says. Starting your first steroids cycle by Ben pakulski. Okay, so it just brings up

Mike Somerville

Yeah, do you know that person?

Unknown Speaker

Yeah, yeah. And and well respected, he is well respected. He's very knowledgeable. I don't know that he's completely. He's not one of the ones that are completely open and honest. So let's

Dana Blouin

talk about open an Aussie real quick cuz I would say fake. Natty is is sort of a epidemic in the online bodybuilding world. And you would be the exact opposite of a fake Natty. Right? You'd be a real enhancv I guess. We'll go down that right.

Unknown Speaker

I'm injecting myself on cam

Dana Blouin

Yeah. Right reconstituting with tapwater. Showing the positive showing but showing and showing negative results. Yeah. So why is becoming Why is fake Natty ism such a, an epidemic in that online bodybuilding world?

Unknown Speaker

Well, it all started in the early days of bodybuilding where you had the weeders this family that monopolized the bodybuilding industry for the purpose of selling supplements, okay? So they're thinking, Okay, we can't sell steroids, but we can sell supplements. So we'll have these guys all take steroids look amazing. And then we'll tell everybody that they took cheap supplements, and they were back then they were just ultra low quality supplements, right? It was just a total scam. And then that just continued forward that sort of built the entire industry on that foundation. So it's the foundation of the entire online industry. Yeah,

Dana Blouin

so lies right away, right from day one. But like, you don't have to be. You don't have to lie now. Right. But so many people do.

Unknown Speaker

Well, there's a few reasons why you have to lie. Number one is censorship. Oh, can't tell the truth. Because if people if the general public finds out that sports and bodybuilding is all about steroids, then it's going to cost Big Pharma a lot of money, it's going to cost the mainstream supplement industry a lot of money, they want you to go through these pathways where they have control of your spending and your decision making. And once you realize that, there's things better outside of those pathways, they start losing a lot of money, and they don't care about it on a small scale. Some small youtuber can go on and talk about steroids until they have 5000 subscribers but we get like me, you start getting a big following to where you could actually cost these companies hundreds of millions of dollars because that's the direction that I was heading. Then you become a threat then they take you out. So there's the censorship element. There's also the ego element. This is in America especially people are very jealous. This is one of the reasons I like being in Thailand, not because Thailand is just less jealous as a culture in general, but also because as a foreigner in Thailand, I heard you talking about something on podcast as a foreigner in Thailand, the locals They're just not as jealous of you. You're not like the same speech you're not saying yeah. So you can you can do a lot more without having the negative things happen to you that happened in America from people being jealous, like lawsuits and just bad in bad media, things like that.

Mike Somerville

But we were also talking about ego, right? Because I said, hey, there's this stereotype that if you if you shoot if you inject, you know, steroids you have a small deck, right? And I said, What Why? Why is that and you said it ego

Unknown Speaker

jealousy for an excuse to take to blow out your candle right there shine, but

Mike Somerville

that's not true. But I'll just I'll just throw out there. Oh, you have a smaller dick than I do. And it can be completely false. But I'll

Dana Blouin

be honest, very likely could be an accurate saying,

Mike Somerville

Hey, you know what, it was a cold day. I just got out of the pool. You know, it was icy, but what's crazy is people seem to so want to believe the incorrect or negative statements about anything? Well, frankly, you know,

Unknown Speaker

there's there's one more that's important. A lot of bodybuilders put their bodies through a lot of stuff to get where they are. They don't want they genuinely do care about other people and they don't want other people to hurt themselves. They don't think that other people are capable of using these things safely. So even now, when the steroid taboo is decreasing, you still have growth hormones, taboo insulin taboo site enhancement taboo. And so even if someone admits they're taking steroids, they want to miss taking these other things because they don't want people to go out and use insulin, which is actually one of the biggest secrets in bodybuilding. Still,

Dana Blouin

I know that bodybuilders use insulin, I don't know what for Can you explain it?

Unknown Speaker

Oh, insulin is a storage hormone that you know the whole point of building muscle or the whole mechanism of building muscle, you got to push more things into the muscle protein, carbs, minerals. So insulin is that that hormone that pushes everything into the muscle? Yeah, the steroids will increase protein synthesis help you build more tissue, but it doesn't do much good unless you're actually pushing more protein in the muscle so insulin pushes it in.

Unknown Speaker

So it's we're talking about human chemistry. I wanted to go back to a another advice point. So one of the biggest things that attracted me to you was how you discussed steroids openly and honestly, I never have never probably will take steroids because of the information I received from you and other people openly discussed it someday

Unknown Speaker

you'll probably take TRT when you're testing some that I'm

Unknown Speaker

already taking TRT

Unknown Speaker

okay you're taking

Unknown Speaker

well I mean Yeah, that's a good point. Yeah, yeah, exactly. That's the because the the line the difference but for example, like the HGH and all those other extra things that I've heard from like Joe Rogan, Mel Gibson's dad was doing different things like that. The benefits of it. So when I thought

Dana Blouin

Mel Gibson was doing a stem cell

Unknown Speaker

he was a stem cell and he Oh, was it Yeah.

Unknown Speaker

Although Hollywood people are it's funny because it catches on because they hear that other Hollywood people are doing it so they want everybody in Hollywood.

Unknown Speaker

Like people saying the rock is Natty. I'm like are you fucking No, I think he's pretty obvious.

Dana Blouin

Especially especially when he did painting gave 100% natural

Unknown Speaker

goodness. So it's like, when when I have these conversations with young man about doing TRT. I'm gonna go this shit is amazing. It's changed my life. I know, but you don't look like you do TRT, but yeah, look like I did when I was 25 and in the military and doing what I did back then. But now I'm 37 and 38, my body changed and something else had to change. Get recommended and prescription doctor injects me every two weeks.

Mike Somerville

So and the results are positive.

Unknown Speaker

You actually go to the doctor and they give you

Unknown Speaker

a common bitch. I'm not injecting myself.

Mike Somerville

Yeah, Roger that. Source needles,

Unknown Speaker

I'll pay 200 baht for you to do it. But

Dana Blouin

also you by the end to be clear, you're buying the stairs. You're buying the TRT from the farmers over gokada Yeah, bringing it to the whereas Yeah, so you can buy testosterone over the counter here in Thailand but like certain steroids you can't right Tony? Right, right. And actually the same he buys under the counter you go Yeah, there's a pharmacy that has a bodybuilding posters in the front supplement and they sell pro like usually if you see a pharmacy and they're selling protein in the front window you know you can go in and they'll pull like trays a shit out from under the counter.

Unknown Speaker

You know, Eric the the same logic of you going to a professional to inject you rather than you who is an amateur amateur is doing it is the same theory I use to justify going to prostitute I go to a professional sex worker to get me sex and love. Yeah, I don't I don't need an amateur. Or to do

Unknown Speaker

this money. The number of times I've got an extremely bad head after spending $500 on

Unknown Speaker

Vegas.

Unknown Speaker

Fucking Vegas. Yeah, out and about bullshit. Austin, New York. No ROI,

Dana Blouin

no follow. That's like a 10 like not even a 10 drink. Nice.

Unknown Speaker

Yes, barely attending now, but it's like, you're absolutely right. Like, why not just hire a professional who knows what she's doing to get the job done. So hold on. We're off track a little bit. Back to the original question is what would you suggest young men and young women do in regards to human chemistry to not only make their lives longer make them better because I don't believe that we're receiving proper education about how our body changes from 25 to 35 to 48 what like supplements should they take everybody be on TRT? No steroids what men and women be doing or getting ready to do?

Unknown Speaker

Just start with the most basics which is to eliminate processed foods or foods you have a sensitivity to or chemicals in your food.

Mike Somerville

So natural foods plant based that sort of

Unknown Speaker

I'm I know, he's staying is plant based and I like meat. Okay, and I think meat is is fine, but you eat vegetables. I do eat vegetables. I'm not a carnivore diet. Yeah, yeah.

Mike Somerville

Not paleo like don't do that right

Unknown Speaker

I do better I my body does better having some fiber. Yeah, push things. Yeah, sure. I wouldn't like do carnival. But I know a lot of people do carnivore and it works.

Mike Somerville

Okay, so that's the

Unknown Speaker

keto right now. Okay. Yeah. And and the change of my body was fantastic beyond any other you know,

Mike Somerville

but it wasn't just going to the store and eating a shitload more steak. I mean, you had like a regimen that you learned. It was pretty much a lot of butter.

Dana Blouin

air air frying, I bought an air fryer. And he was putting videos on Instagram, air fry and pork chops tonight and fried chicken wings.

Unknown Speaker

Okay, so, you know, I don't know if these air fryers are a big thing in the US because I never saw one.

Dana Blouin

It's basically a mini introduction of it.

Unknown Speaker

Yeah, it's incredible. Yeah, right Ganesha I used to use a George Foreman, right in the US who didn't and I've shifted to there.

Dana Blouin

Yeah.

Unknown Speaker

Fantastic. But yeah, so so get rid of process. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker

So first thing is what to eliminate. So we just talked about things to eliminate. And then for the actual diet. Most people eat way more carbohydrates than they need, okay. You can survive without carbohydrates just fine right. Now, if your weight training, you're an athlete, the carbohydrates give you a certain fuel source that helps you perform better under certain conditions. But endurance athletes actually do really well on the ketogenic diet, also. Okay. So yeah, that's the next one is consider lowering the carbohydrates to the amount that your body actually needs. Not just keeping it as Okay, so

Dana Blouin

removal of that biggest carbohydrate. Yeah, like, again, like one whole pizza in three loaves of bread, please.

Mike Somerville

We're gonna have to have a special podcast just on the best pizza in Bangkok.

Dana Blouin

It's Paul's error is wrong. Eric is

Mike Somerville

your volumes turned up louder doesn't mean necessarily I'm

Dana Blouin

gonna shut Eric

Unknown Speaker

just say the goddamn name.

Mike Somerville

But, but Okay, so those again eliminating

Unknown Speaker

right now next next, what do we add in so there's certain vitamins and minerals that we're more likely to be deficient in. If you're an athlete, there's ones that you're especially going to be deficient in. omega three fatty acids fish oil. Dana, do you have Do you take fish oil or do you slag fish flax? Okay, so flax is okay but that requires your body to be able to convert it Yeah, okay. And and some people's body is able to convert a lot of it and some people's body very converts very little so I would err on the side you can have a genetic test done to see how well you're

Dana Blouin

I take about twice as much flax and I do like the the pre ground right I don't take the whole I take twice as much flax as I would fish oil.

Unknown Speaker

Okay, probably want to do like five times more.

Mike Somerville

Yeah, as well as fish oil.

Dana Blouin

Not Why don't take fish

Unknown Speaker

and just use fish oil by default, but if you're plant based then you can use

Dana Blouin

it even even when I meet and if I when I used to take fish oil. Um, I get these crazy fish burps

Unknown Speaker

Oh, yeah, the burpless ones now.

Dana Blouin

In my shit smells like just wear a

Mike Somerville

goddamn mask. So first,

Dana Blouin

creatine and fish oil is like the worst combination.

Mike Somerville

Whey Protein guy so Fisher I mean, again, most of the listeners and yes, he can go to costco.com and get your fucking fish. Oh,

Unknown Speaker

yeah. And algae is another source of Yep. Okay, I guess I

Dana Blouin

take algae and algae and nutritional yeast.

Unknown Speaker

Okay, good. Yeah, and nutritional yeast has a lot of B vitamins they 12th thing we can use more frequently because our body deplete some very quick. I know there are multiple kinds of B one b 123 12. What many of them any, but but there's certain ones that we're more likely to be deficient in like b 12. For example, that's something you would get from red meat. You don't get in a plant based diet you can buy 12 sublingual, okay, it doesn't absorb through the digestive systems you can either going to be 12 shot or you can take a sublingual methylated B 12.

Dana Blouin

You have to have like, you should take it like after you eat so like you have to have fat because vitamins are fat soluble.

Mike Somerville

absorb You mean the pills when you produce any vitamin

Unknown Speaker

Oh, even if you get it injected. Okay, got it. And then with the immune system now since that should be everybody's priority. Vitamin D and zinc are things that many people are deficient in. That will make a huge difference in the immune system.

Dana Blouin

A lot of people don't black so we can't talk about your vitamin D but also what are you racist us white folks from? From the US? The Sunshine here in Thailand is probably we're probably odd and yeah, right because you don't burn melanin like a motherfucker. Take like, like 10 iu of vitamin D a day just like

Mike Somerville

sunscreen. We're

Dana Blouin

pissing out vitamin D, white folk

Mike Somerville

10 minutes in the sun here. So to that point, I mean talk a lot about it. I mean, you know, with this COVID thing, right? Everyone's in doors and every I've been hearing this take more vitamin D take more vitamin D, when you're in quarantine and that sort of thing. I walk outside all the time. Yeah. How do I know if I'm getting enough vitamin D? Like, do I just go to the EU abroad and get a test, you can get a blood test. Okay. But the the range that they give you of what normal vitamin D isn't necessarily what's optimal for health and building immunity. And like if someone were undergoing an underground cancer treatment, they would want vitamin D levels, something like four times the normal level. Okay, so I guess I'm in my 20s. And I'm in my 30s. And I'm trying to figure this out. So by the time I get to 40, I don't have like a limp dick, and I'm overweight and all this shit. So I'm doing some of the stuff that I took. But then like I like I said, I go to the doctor, and he gives me this piece of paper. And Tony says no, that's like totally the wrong. Should I go to a nutritionist if I don't know you, like, Do I go to an intuitionist? Do I mean, obviously. I guess what that piece of paper the doctor gave me it would be wrong.

Dana Blouin

Well, yes. Before we before you answer. I think we should also say you should define your goals first, right? Oh,

Unknown Speaker

yeah. goals and risk tolerance. Okay. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker

Let's say as a person of color grew up in the United States in trash food, I don't want to die from diabetes. By the time I'm ready, five, that's let's just use that as the barometer of a decent guy who's in relative Okay, shape in his 20s. He grew up on processed food. Yeah, and has a history of diabetes in their family. So

Mike Somerville

you remove the processed food, you do less carbs, and then you do more vitamin D potentially, right? And then test and then what?

Unknown Speaker

exercise and lose the fat, like, lower body fat, okay. Right. So you have to take the individual and what is most likely going to be their limiting factor to having optimal health. So, so in Eric's case, it's probably insulin sensitivity. He's probably queued up for type two diabetes, the healthiest thing he can do is increases insulin sensitivity. Sorry, carbohydrate intake. We're gonna go

Mike Somerville

our three

Dana Blouin

you guys can keep going with me. I gotta jump downstairs real quick.

Mike Somerville

All right, that's fine. Okay, so that's that's a pretty good plan again, for the average person. You know, I mean, when you say person of color, do you mean I mean, because

Unknown Speaker

America's and usually Mexican Americans in the US, they eat more?

Mike Somerville

Yeah, um, fast food, processed food? Well,

Unknown Speaker

unfortunately, we have a huge issue in the United States with food deserts. And notes. food deserts tend to be and lower socio economic community. Okay, got it. It was something like 51% of school aged children in the United States are below the poverty level. Okay, they barely have enough to eat let alone to eat healthy. All right. And, you know, we come from a country where it here in Thailand, they don't have to label shit as organic because everything's organic. You just walk out? Yeah, it was just, it is

Mike Somerville

backyards. I didn't have the money for pesticides.

Unknown Speaker

So and so in the US when you have a salad is gonna cost you $9 versus a double cheeseburger is going to cost you 99 and people are barely surviving in general, just already. What are they going to choose? Let's choose the double cheeseburger. Okay. And you know, right now, when I'm 22 It's okay, cuz so college dude. But yeah, but when you get into your 30s those burgers start to add up, you know, that terrible diet starts to add up. So I only say people color in that regard. Okay, because it's disproportionate. Not even necessarily people call you people before a pork. Yeah,

Mike Somerville

yeah. for white people. for white people. Unfortunately, there's the same shit we do. There are more, I guess colored people that are in Mac prisons. Right? Mexican Yeah.

Unknown Speaker

41% African.

Mike Somerville

But also that's a whole other podcast. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker

Disappointment but and also we have a culture of frying stuff we love. Yeah. Fried chicken hog mods, because that's what we were given.

Mike Somerville

You know, you know, don't darn that celebration is like, let's have my buddies over and have a shitload of beef and have sausages. Yeah, no, absolutely. Yeah. Okay, so but to the point of cost. Let's say you're you don't have again, I don't want to for the sake of argument, let's say at $5 a day, basically in the US and you're like, dude, I can buy six fucking cheeseburgers. All I got to do is eat too. And I feel full. Right. And of course, I'm invincible because I'm 18 years old. Yeah. What is when you look at a $9 sound? Are there ways you can get a $2 salad that will be just as good as that fruit? Because I mean, that's the thing. It's like, I've got six seconds between class and I have $2 Yeah,

Unknown Speaker

they are not even just a solid but food. Sure. Food that should be fuel, like healthy fuel for your body. It might be trail mix, whatever at a reasonable price at a reasonable price. What would you suggest? Well,

Unknown Speaker

I have so many thoughts about all this. I mean, I I started eating healthy at a young a pretty young age. I had it I had my mom's side of the family My dad's side of the family, my dad's side of the family like the fast food type thing. My mom's side of the family was all you know wanted everything organic, home farm grown Italian family Italian cooking. And so I experienced both both sides of that so that the the bad food is also appealing because it tastes good. It tastes good. It's got chemicals in it that makes it supposed to addicting and it's also the reason why fast food sometimes it's so cheap is because a lot of those ingredients are subsidized by the government. Cornbury government is choosing insure the prices of the thing and they're making the foods that are bad for us cheaper than the foods that are good for us if the government shifted and and subsidized for healthier crops. Yeah, but that's not how it works. So

Mike Somerville

that's not happening. So therefore I have $2.

Dana Blouin

Yeah, there's no one the government's not subsidizing broccoli or asparagus. They subsidize green corn. Yeah, feed corn.

Mike Somerville

So I've only got the $2 like, what should I eat?

Dana Blouin

So why is coke think about this? Coke has how many ingredients and it's cheaper than water? It's

Mike Somerville

cheaper than water. It's more prevalent. There's coke in the middle of the fucking desert. That's not cocaine. There's

Dana Blouin

also cocaine. Oh, I can get it.

Unknown Speaker

I know how to answer this. So Let's bust that myth about having breakfast cereal as being a good way to start the day. That's how I grew up.

Dana Blouin

It's dessert.

Unknown Speaker

How about skipping breakfast most important meal a day? How about saving the $2 and instead spending $4 on a healthier meal I don't need to keep eating because we're feeding an addiction craving the carbohydrates intermittent fasting is okay for children also if they're having enough protein and enough healthier fats that

Dana Blouin

that's a controversial saver that if it is okay for kids there's a lot of doctors would say no, I do if myself I feel great. But if I'm sorry, intermittent fasting and growing up poor Yeah, that's right.

Unknown Speaker

Like you got two meals a day you ate lunch and dinner and you didn't eat

Mike Somerville

but if the education system was first of all just have water for bread or whatever, right and then by the time lunch comes around, let's say you still only have $2 right you can go by that was the discussion idea that Eric brought up the fact that you know if you grew up like let's say for sake of argument poor in the United States, you can get two cheeseburgers for one third the price of a frickin salad. It's true. So okay, so you're at lunch and you're don't have any money and all your buddies Well, fuck the peer pressure but like you're like okay, I'm gonna eat what's the shake have a protein shake eggs, eggs, okay, and those are

Unknown Speaker

inexpensive boiled eggs overeasy egg scrambled eggs kids love scrambled eggs

Mike Somerville

easy to digest highly available nutrients especially if he the yolk right a lot of vitamins in them you buy 60 eggs for like, what three bucks at Costco. Okay, so cool. So we we saw this with the the parents like they hard boiled the egg. They give the eggs to the kids for lunch for say sake of argument. And then later on in the day, like in other words, how do they keep this sass for snacking? You know, nuts. Nuts are reasonably priced. Boys. Okay, good. Yeah. Bang those against the chin

Unknown Speaker

dried. Dried fruits.

Unknown Speaker

Yeah, dried fruits are fine. You know,

Dana Blouin

I'm not gonna stay away from those fucking dry bananas here in Thailand. Oh, this so depends what

Mike Somerville

you do with but they're supposed to put them in your mouth.

Dana Blouin

They're like, each one is like 180 calories. I'll put away 10

Unknown Speaker

no problem. You're an overachiever at everything. You know, back to the intermittent fasting. My five year old daughter, if you let her eat on the schedule she wants to eat. She wouldn't eat breakfast. I know. Right? I have to force her to eat breakfast. And the reason I do that is because I don't know what she's gonna eat the rest of the day. Right? So at least I know I can get her some healthy protein some eggs in early in the morning. But if I if I can control every one of our meals and she wants to skip breakfast, I would say all right, that's fine. We'll have eggs for lunch.

Dana Blouin

I'll tell you that before I started intermittent fasting. So I get my bloodwork done yearly. My testosterone levels were starting to really dip. Right I start I have way up back to what they were three years ago.

Mike Somerville

Give me the plan for intermittent fasting like after this show today. I'm going to take that I'm going to start intermittent fasting. What do I do?

Unknown Speaker

Well, you could just skip breakfast. That's really that's it. It's that simple, because I already do that now.

Mike Somerville

So what would be the next

Unknown Speaker

try to try to avoid late night late night snacking Got it?

Unknown Speaker

From 12 to nine only between 12

Mike Somerville

and you go to bed when? midnight? Okay, so so you know, there's not so much 9pm it's basically but three hours before you lay down and go to sleep. You're like no, I'm not eating anymore.

Dana Blouin

So for me, I when I'm strict about it, I do six to 10 is when I eat and go. So I'll skip breakfast, skip lunch, and then I try to eat during six to 10pm I'll try to get somewhere around 1800 to 2500 calories.

Mike Somerville

So intermittent then is like per day. It's not like per week like nobody's like no no, don't eat anything. Just drink water monday, tuesday wednesday, and then sometimes do that I was gonna say isn't there's other

Unknown Speaker

health benefits of that fast more than let's say two days and your body really starts chewing away at cancer for example, and your body starts really repairing Jesus Christ.

Dana Blouin

Once again, again, very, again, very controversial statement because you know what? Who cares because it doesn't matter. I just want to be clear that, you know, medical research does not necessarily fully agree with that statement that other people make it, you can make it talk about what you want. I just want to be very clear listeners that that's Tony's opinion. So

Unknown Speaker

and along that line of conversation, what do you believe are some of the biggest bullshit myths that are perpetuated in us in regards to our bodies are health.

Unknown Speaker

So the food pyramid is one look at the food tournament, it's all grains is what we're supposed to be the most of? Well, that's

Dana Blouin

been that's not even a myth anymore. They know it's wrong. FDA has even said that they're revising. It's like, what a 20 year plan to revise the food pyramid 20 years. Great.

Mike Somerville

Yeah. But when he can tell us in 20 minutes that people

Unknown Speaker

who just follow the the mainstream on like the root dish, the real mainstream surface stuff, still don't get that match. You have to look just a little further to still get that message.

Dana Blouin

Well, even some schools have like sued over the some public schools I don't remember where I have sued their district to allow them to adjust their school lunches because they were legally required to to meet the the pyramid right, the the green, essentially the, the carbohydrate and sugar pyramid that were were grown up on.

Unknown Speaker

There was a big push for soy. Yeah. And I believe that these these companies that are trying to monopolize everything, right, have realized that there's certain things that they can make that they can create a larger profit margin. I do believe that some of the plant based movement is based on the fact that there can be a much higher profit margin with plant items than animals, especially

Mike Somerville

organic. If it's organic, it costs more well.

Dana Blouin

Again, it's both I think organics bullshit. I know it says that organic is bullshit. But I disagree with you on the profit margin, the margin on factory farming in America is huge. Because they're feeding so they grow a cow in like months by feeding grain that they're getting for almost nothing because it's subsidized. And they don't walk the same. Same with chicken. Okay, yeah, right. They turn I think a chicken's life is like 30 days or less

Mike Somerville

in factory legs don't work. They just sit all day. Yeah.

Dana Blouin

So it so it's actually very expensive and intensive because plants don't grow. We haven't figured out an optimal way to grow plants fast yet. Right? And like even someone who I don't eat me, I only plans but you know, that's my choice. I don't necessarily think it's the optimal diet for everyone. Right? You don't there's a reason that you don't see, like, every world class athlete in the world being a vegan, right? It's like and but there's also a reason you don't see every world class athlete in the world eating the same diet. Right people respond differently. Same with drugs.

Mike Somerville

Let me throw this out there because I one of the things that I learned in Kaiser I believe this was correct is that if I drink like diet soda, right, basically, instead of drinking you know coke with sugar in it, it's actually gonna probably promote my weight gain because my body thinks it just had sugar and that but it didn't. And so therefore it wants to ingest more so I potentially will end up eating more. If I don't, if I drink a Coca Cola and I have all that sugar then my body's like, Okay, what good is that? Is there any

Unknown Speaker

diet coke or sugar

Mike Somerville

Diet Coke? I'm talking about if you drink diet soda,

Dana Blouin

yeah, aspartame.

Mike Somerville

Yeah. as well. Yeah. Which is illegal, I guess in Thailand, right? Like, you can't Yeah.

Unknown Speaker

So that's the study like the dogs whose mouth water when the bell rang? Yes, I forgot.

Mike Somerville

Yeah, well, I do that too.

Unknown Speaker

So like when you look at food, you start salivating when you eat, when you have carbohydrates in your mouth detects that even before it hits your digestive system, your body releases insulin. So there's a theory on its Wits it's reacting on now, my theory is that if your insulin spikes, your blood sugar drops, your body's gonna, otherwise you're gonna go hypoglycemic, your body's gonna then stop producing insulin. So yes, maybe you have a small insulin response, but it's counteracted by the lack of insulin secreted immediately after, okay, so maybe you have a little bump, but it's not going to stay high. Otherwise, you would go hypoglycemic.

Dana Blouin

Yeah, I think. So. It's not just the insulin response, there's been quite a bit of research on like artificial sweeteners, creating a miscommunication. Sort of like between your brain and your gut biome, say, like your chemistry, your body thinking that you're consuming calories, and then going into like, either storage mode or something else, and it fucks up your entire especially people those, I forget the study off the top of my head, whereas people who drank artificially sweetened beverages while eating food. Yeah, there was a big issue with that.

Unknown Speaker

So there is there is what is it erythritol I think it's erythritol that actually causes some dysfunction in functioning of your brown fat, which is the good fat so

Dana Blouin

that actually burns calories. Yeah,

Unknown Speaker

we don't want to get rid of brown fat. Yeah, that's what animals used to heat their bodies when it's cold. And humans have some of it just not as much as animals. It's

Dana Blouin

a newly discovered a thing, right? Like and like, in the last decade that we realized, like humans have brown fat, Mm hmm.

Unknown Speaker

And, and when In bodybuilding, when I'm trying to burn as much fat as possible, I'm trying to maximize brown fat. So I do try to stay away from I believe it's earth or tall. Now, yes, the other artificial sweeteners could interfere with the gut microbiome. But the flip side of which is everything right into the body. But the flip side of that is that what if you could trick your body into thinking you were consuming calories so that your metabolism speeds up because you've got plenty of calories you're not because I want to trick I use is I'm when I'm dieting hard, I drink a lot of psyllium fiber. I feel like it's tricking my body into thinking I'm eating when I'm not. So my body's go is like okay, we can keep releasing calories from the metabolism right? There's a lot of other switches I hit in my body to keep my metabolism metabolism up and doing things like drinking a lot of green tea, things like that help as well.

Dana Blouin

Yeah. Big into the green tea. I drink a lot of coffee as well. I think Yeah, when we look at science, the science of things and as a researcher as an engineer, scientist, sciences, it's ever evolving, right? Our knowledge, nothing is static. And I always get frustrated when people say it's always been like this always. We know more today than we did yesterday, we'll know more tomorrow than we do today. Your opinion should always change based on the data that you have available. I think the things that we know that we're pretty confident on now diet wise is that you know, you should eat you know, leafy greens that you get a lot of nutrients on that is fiber there. no objection. No, right. No, you should. I mean, I'm not saying only right if you eat meat eat make sure you eat vegetables like you know i think that's an important thing that you should eat meat that's not been treated with antibiotics we know that has a negative impacts on on humans, you know, especially and also the way that meat was slaughtered. Right, the old school they just line them up and let them watch each other get their head chopped off before you hook them. And then they get all this adrenaline spike and all that all that toxin the meat not great for us, surprisingly. Right? So there's a lot of things like that, you know, we know now that you don't need to drink eight glasses of water a day like they told us when we were in school like drinking a glass of water you're gonna die.

Mike Somerville

But is there any downside to like having a lot of water? I mean, yeah,

Dana Blouin

you can actually you can actually cause a lot of damage to your body by having too much water

Unknown Speaker

without the nutrients. So this water things very interesting because I always drink a ton of water when I started traveling the world and I see these people in other countries. I never see them drink water,

Mike Somerville

but then yeah,

Unknown Speaker

okay, but here's the thing. Your kidneys are very delicate organs, they're filters for your bloodstream. And if you don't drink enough water and you're taking in things that are toxic to the kidneys, which means especially like in bodybuilding, or if you're eating a lot of protein fast you need more water to clean that fill Okay, so it really depends on how many toxins are going to your kidneys as far as how much water you really need to be taken.

Dana Blouin

Hydration level itself is important but over hydrations just as dangerous as under hydration

Mike Somerville

I think over a lot of things is just a bad

Dana Blouin

Oh like all things in moderation are good right like potentially like a like an awesome fucking cheeseburger moderation

Mike Somerville

podcast. Everyone should listen to every fucking everything so

Dana Blouin

this Bangkok Bangkok strange in moderation is not good you should od all the time.

Mike Somerville

moderation is okay in moderation, but nothing exceeds like excess. tell you that right now

Dana Blouin

but dietary wise, right, like I love carbs, but like if I could if I didn't if I wasn't such a fucking glutton and I had better self control. When I eat more leafy greens, you know, a more diverse vegetable, you know, palette, and not eat bread and rice with every meal. I look better I feel better. If I stopped eating like, is like Ali. I've been like kind of scaling back. But when I eat a ton of rice, I just pack on weight I can put on 10 kg in 30 days easily. Right. But by the flipside, if I cut my rice in half, I could drop 10 kg in 30 days, but you'd like the rice in love.

Mike Somerville

I mean, if I could use cocaine normally I use it every day all day long.

Dana Blouin

I love I love bread, right? And so luckily right because I can't eat milk. I'm lactose intolerant. And most bread in Thailand has no powder in it just pure lactose, right. So if I eat any of it, I know within an hour because I'm fucking bent over with like stomach pain. Shitting you know? shitting so knowing that

Mike Somerville

you're not necessarily the best judge of good pizza. Am I right up top? How are we doing there?

Dana Blouin

Yeah, you motherfucker. This is why I'm the co host. Yeah. Fucking Oh. you motherfuckers son of next week, we'll have a new co host. At boys.

Mike Somerville

summorum Yeah, just throwing that out there. Yeah. loanees here.

Dana Blouin

Yeah, I do want to get back to Lady boys. Because I think our lady boy experience. Yeah. Yeah, we never got back that was right forward. We could diagram it. Yeah, we could bend it. So spoiler

Unknown Speaker

alert. Yeah, I can't have sex with the First Lady boy that I sort of fell for. You know, it was more gradual than that. But the first time my my kind of my very close friend of mine will say,

Dana Blouin

Yeah, he his name was Eric social security number.

Unknown Speaker

He and I came on this tour and we went into a ladyboy bar. We didn't know his lady boy. We didn't look at the huge ladyboy like,

Mike Somerville

those boobs are perfect. man made. Yeah,

Unknown Speaker

we just saw hot girls pulling us and giving us the right attention. They're really good at it. And we go in and we sit down and we're sitting with these smokin hot girls. Oh my god, I feel like a Rubik's Cube. I see a Rubik's Cube on your desk. I feel like a Rubik's Cube. And this this girl knows how to solve me like a Rubik's Cube the algorithms Don't touch me. I'm so hard. I'm just I can feel the pulse in my penis. I'm so excited. I haven't thought that for a while. And my brother leans over to me about 20 minutes in and says, hey, my girl just said that these are lady boys. And like, yeah, very fun. I literally like like, yeah, my friend just said you're a ladyboy. And then she goes, Yeah, they always like what? I'm looking at your cameltoe through your bikini. Yeah. And I said you you don't have a penis? She goes, No, I have pussy. And she pulled it down and showed me your pussy. And it's perfect pussy. Yeah. And I'm looking at her and she's one of the most beautiful girls I ever saw this. I'm like, this is my dream girl. Yeah, this is a perfect 10 and I don't give that out. Yeah, liberally. And, and my my friend was like, Okay, we got to go. No, no, let's just kind of see this. I think it would be kind of rude.

Unknown Speaker

don't want to hurt their

Unknown Speaker

dreams. You know? I like how about looks like look around and see we can tell which ones are ladyboys not you know they're all ladyboy no frickin

Mike Somerville

Well, I gotta check every single one upstairs. thousand thousand.

Dana Blouin

science

Unknown Speaker

science disproves disprove this awkward thing of me trying to buy as much time as this lady would just squeeze every minute out of this experience, because my mind is just blown. And that's it. I was sold and I when I went back to America after that, I just kept thinking about Yeah, I'm confused. My brain could couldn't wrap my mind around. Did

Mike Somerville

you go? What am I fucking gay? I mean, did I ever I mean, that stereotype again, right? Well, did you ever consider it?

Unknown Speaker

Yeah, so I tried that out, too. No,

Mike Somerville

I know. But I mean, were you like,

Unknown Speaker

why did you try? Yeah, try it out, guys. Yeah,

Mike Somerville

yeah. But I mean, after the experience,

Unknown Speaker

no, it's not for me. I mean, it's just it's not a sexual like, I had no problem like, man's body, my body all this type of stuff. I had no top or bottom division. I don't even pick. I would. I don't even pick one reverse. Either way, you know, versatile. I guess I'm versus I guess based on bit gay. So I'm like, I'm like, I admit, I'm like 5%. Gay.

Mike Somerville

Yeah. But again, it wasn't for you. You weren't like, oh my god. I like Lady boys. I'm like, No,

Unknown Speaker

there was a running joke that it was like, Look, there was a comedian on stage. And he was he had a similar experience with a lady boy. He's like, yeah, the same for me. And everybody was gonna start laughing in the audience. And they were like, what the fuck you looking at me? Like I'm gay. I'm certified. You motherfucker. You don't know? Yes. So we're all like, Oh, yeah. It's fucking rock. Don't knock unless you try. But it's like, you know, you talk a lot about perspective in the US have the same thing when I go home. It's a reverse culture shock. Not only just, you know, just social culture, but romantic culture. Yeah. And women treat each other views on sexuality. And those things are very real conversations that we don't have in the US that they do have here. You know, like, for example, it's every people are openly gay here, like, clearly gay.

Mike Somerville

And there's only like pockets in the US. Yeah, like San Francisco. Yeah,

Dana Blouin

clearly trans. I think people, I think, at least for me, it always seemed that before I left to come here, which was eight years ago, and I was definitely more open than like, in the 90s when I was living. I lived in Boston in the 90s. Like, no one no one in their right mind wants to be openly gay.

Unknown Speaker

About that was like in the US, you know, coming out of Texas. Yeah, this is like, yo, you can be gay, but you can be gay or there. Yeah, here you can be gay. Anyway. Anyway, it doesn't matter much you can't get married here.

Dana Blouin

Yeah, it's not it's it's so it's not illegal. It's not it's also not legal. It's not like it's not legal. And it's not it's weird because being trans here being a ladyboy it's sort of accepted of this very well it's, it's accepted it no it's not though it's except on this very superficial level. Hello. It's like out and like you can be a ladyboy you can be you know, whatever people understand that's part of the culture but like how many of them have good relationships with their family right with with other people like all the lady boys who I met, like at university here or whatever they're like, either you leave Thailand. To go work somewhere else, or you end up in working with robots or being an escort because that's so weird that was they get they do get like this, I knew one who was a computer science student, very, very talented programmer couldn't get an internship, okay, because they also won't change like in the US because everything as much as I bitch about like social justice warriors and stuff, they have pushed America very far level which I like sections, there's legal protections and also like, you can get your license, you can change your name, you can change your gender on your license, right to reflect how you feel good or bad. And that's not here, your your ID, a lot of times they've got the same photo from when they were like 18, they get their national ID on the first time. They can't change their name, they can't change their gender. And so you go to apply for a job and because here, there's no protections on job interview. Yeah,

Mike Somerville

no, you got it. So

Dana Blouin

you guys know everything. Yeah. And so, you know, a lot of them get discriminated for jobs. And that's an unfortunate part. So it is accepted widely on a very superficial level, but culturally, deeply, not as open as you would think.

Unknown Speaker

I think legally, I don't I don't think culturally deeply I think legally is because it's more closed off closed off illegally. I think you have to make a separation between. First of all America is a great example. I don't believe our government represents us as a people. I think we all can agree with that. top down. Yes. Exactly. It was wealthy. Oh. For example, in my opinion Trump got out here.

Unknown Speaker

Don't think it's not the people

Unknown Speaker

it's the people at the very very top. Yeah. The i what i hate is the lower class are targeting the middle class right above them. Yeah. That is not the oppressor. That is not the monopolies. You don't see the ones that are the oppressed. They know how not to be a

Dana Blouin

millionaire. You're not rich. Yeah. Right. And like, I think a lot of times you don't you don't

Mike Somerville

in the US, you're not a us in

Dana Blouin

the US. And you don't realize that until you get to that point. Yeah. And you're like, Fuck, I'm really not. I'm paying way too much in taxes. Yeah, like, like, cuz you get like, you can always see over. Like how high you get gives you a little bit more visibility, right. So you get that millionaire level and you're like, oh, there are motherfuckers playing that away different level. And basically, if you're paying tax,

Unknown Speaker

you're in the middle class.

Dana Blouin

Yeah, that's, yeah,

Mike Somerville

for sure. What's interesting is for sure, I don't think there's any there's many true statements, but one of the most true is the first millions the toughest, because you got to work your ass off when you get there and you like, son of a bitch. I like do is on a fucking house. Yeah, of course. I'm a millionaire. I bought it and you know, however long ago, but you know, I wanted to share my experience with Lady boys. And again, it wasn't with I mean, we can Venn diagram and

Dana Blouin

my mom doesn't live. So I had a I do another podcast with our boy Jay. And we had a guy boy strange, no. dapper villains podcast. And we had the before we ever did the show. We did one together with a tailor. And he was talking about like, he took a girl home not knowing she was a lady boy, when he got back. He was like, give it a shot.

Mike Somerville

But my experience was that they actually had very good relationships with their family, like literally every single one now I didn't meet them in college. Right. So you could argue Yeah, but that's because there's an educational gap or whatever ones that you met, but I completely agree with but there's like you said as far as legal. There's also I mean, I'm too old to get hired in a lot of places. I'm mentally fairly decent, I guess. But they're like no, no meaning someone who's 35

Dana Blouin

they put age restriction. Yeah, jobs. You have to add a picture. Yeah,

Unknown Speaker

like your real estate. Malaysia is big on that. They they won't rent to you of your nationality. Yeah, okay. Oh, you're Chinese. Nope.

Dana Blouin

Well, I've seen I've seen a rental ads here like apartment, you know, two bedroom floor pool blah, blah. No Indians.

Mike Somerville

Yeah, yeah, that's true. I actually have seen in pop even on Walking Street. Actually, I was in line and there were some Indian guys in front of me and the guys like looking at the doorman whenever he's looking at a bar. Right? And he's like, waving he like waves them past me because none and I get them out of there. You know, you're you're allowed in

Unknown Speaker

but also their lights is like, near patpong that we can go in like you guys are wired I'm American. Yeah, you're not Japanese. You're not getting Oh, yeah,

Mike Somerville

you look meaning you don't have 10,000 baht to throw down for I know lady.

Dana Blouin

This spot like that. And I can why where it's Japanese? Only?

Unknown Speaker

A few. Quite a few. So you love Thailand, Tony? All of us.

Unknown Speaker

anywhere in the world I chose,

Mike Somerville

especially now. Oh my god.

Dana Blouin

But Tony things COVID fake though. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker

What do you

Unknown Speaker

do we want to get into

Mike Somerville

this hard curry of the Tony cast. Gentlemen.

Unknown Speaker

What What would you say you feel are the negative things about living here in Thailand that you've experienced?

Unknown Speaker

Well, you know, we can't talk a lot about government stuff. And because there's censorship and it's illegal here. Yeah,

Mike Somerville

that bothers you.

Unknown Speaker

Yeah, it does. Because you know why it bothers me the most. It's not because I want to change things in Thailand because I don't know my cable. It's because it's a perfect model that's more open and honest about how things work here. That is actually a reflection on how it works in America. Yeah, behind the scenes, right? Yeah, we just talk about so if I, you know, Thailand as an example, to show what's going on in America, I can teach people so much. Here, you can see everything. You could

Unknown Speaker

just look at the Red Bull kit, like Yeah, perfect. Exactly. No, yeah, what happens

Unknown Speaker

all the time? You know, it's it's all manatee if you gotta rip, that's how you it's it's humanity and have power. And it just everything works through history. It's just that in some cultures, it's, it's obvious. And in other cultures, it's it's hidden, and there's a facade in front of

Mike Somerville

it again, like you said, I mean, you really can't do anything about it. So

Unknown Speaker

so one problem is censorship. Okay?

Unknown Speaker

Another Another problem is, as a foreigner, it's very hard to navigate here. You know, you're just a tourist, you think, oh, enough people speak English. But once you start living here and getting behind the scenes, a lot of things require you to speak the language or have someone who speaks the language,

Mike Somerville

okay for you. Mexico is the same way.

Unknown Speaker

And and things like banking, very difficult that basically the whole country is built for as a tourist come here for less than a month. Everything's easy for you. Yeah. And come here as a worker, and your employer is gonna hook you up and set you up with everything. But come here to wanting to live here long term, and try and navigate things. This has been quite the challenge. Yeah.

Mike Somerville

What's the hardest? I mean, banking, quite frankly, I think it's pretty easy.

Dana Blouin

I banking is hard. I would disagree. I Well, yeah. Yeah. That hasn't been my experience. We got

Unknown Speaker

to talk to Tony cuz banken. Super easy. Yeah.

Dana Blouin

Yeah, maybe we're failing as friends.

Unknown Speaker

Well, this is the thing I'm, I'm newer than you guys. So there's a lot I'm learning and I still need to learn seven months.

Dana Blouin

Total. But you know, I'm here before

Unknown Speaker

Oh, yeah, yeah. But every time before was less than the

Unknown Speaker

first time I've ever know what it's like.

Dana Blouin

I always thought that you were like, partially based here. Actually, for years and years. I thought that

Unknown Speaker

no, because I circled or I just kept traveling a whole world. So I would come here for three weeks

Dana Blouin

smash and grab it on an international level. He's like, Alright, he's like, I've run out the opportunities in Bangkok, often Manila,

Mike Somerville

baby money. This is what

Unknown Speaker

happened with the relationships before the relationships are great here because I'm leaving. And I stayed past a certain point where the girls really sink their teeth in.

Dana Blouin

Yeah. But so spanking like

Mike Somerville

why was that difficult? Yeah.

Dana Blouin

I want to help you right now. He has a tourist visa. Right. So it's probably a bit yeah, you're on a tourist visa. I guess it's automatically extended. Right. So I can imagine that. So I've never I've never had a tourist visa that I had in had to like, get

Unknown Speaker

a count. Only one bank that was doing it.

Dana Blouin

Yeah, it's so hands on the brand, we might be able to like, I think it's Bangkok bank. Right? So we will help you out with that. Okay.

Unknown Speaker

And then Americans have a hard time banking anywhere in the world, because America is one of the few consoles that requires foreign banks to report all that information to

Mike Somerville

Well, that didn't make it any harder. It's just that I basically had to let them know and every year when I pay my taxes, I have to let them know what foreign banks Yeah, man, I

Unknown Speaker

had a lot of bankers say, you know what, we just don't want to go to America.

Dana Blouin

They don't want to do this. I actually when I first got here as a PhD student, the bank on campus was tmb. They refuse to open accounts for Americans at tmb because of the reporting issue. Yeah, I can so in that's nothing against the bank. That's America's fault. Right. But yeah, Bangkok bank, as SCB as a foreigner, right, depending on your visa, they'll work with you. For sure.

Unknown Speaker

Yeah. Even even like a phone SIM card, for example. You get a tourist SIM card, because it's only for a short period of time. But if you want to look, I've worked with all these things now. But this was one of the big challenges.

Dana Blouin

So I don't have a SIM card in my name. Right. Now.

Mike Somerville

You have it in your passport? Yeah, yes. 711.

Dana Blouin

Yeah, but I don't I don't want to register a sim to my passport. Okay. Because you're a criminal. Yeah. And so that that's good. Anything wrong? Well, so when Jim shows up to get her to get her SIM card, right, she doesn't. She shows her her ID but they're not recording all her information just for billing.

Mike Somerville

Right. And and that's fair, but again, it's like he was saying that's one of the it's very it's very tie. Right. In other words, Thailand is designed for Thailand which

Unknown Speaker

had surveillance you could argue surveillance here is high,

Mike Somerville

that should be the priority.

Unknown Speaker

I expect them to see everything like I move with I move with the knowledge that they're seeing absolutely everything

Dana Blouin

a German guy chops up like three prostitutes they've got them on 500 different video angles in a place where I'm let's say cowboy where you probably don't want as much surveillance right. So but to

Mike Somerville

Tony's point, yeah, they do the exact same amount of surveillance in the United States, but people don't believe it's true and they don't talk

Dana Blouin

in London they do 10 times as much. Yes on the open right. But yes, there are difficult things about living here. But once you get it it's true that yes, you it is made for ties, right so if you want to live here long term, like and this is like the fucked up thing. Like I've lived here eight years. I speak sometimes Enough were like certain things I can get by on my own. But if I'm out with jib and we go somewhere and I start to talk in Thai, what do they do they they look at her and they asked what do I want and Thai? I'm like, motherfucker I just just hold Yeah, like I just told you what I want all the time. But like I need to look like Samuel Jackson like pasta time motherfucker Do you speak it but there

Mike Somerville

are places more than not in the US where I've heard guys say this on the sidewalk speak English motherfucker you know they ignorant probably not as well educated. Here's

Dana Blouin

the thing with us we don't have an official language right you can that's my point in Thailand they do yeah, right so the fact that I don't speak better Thai is on me right it's not on the person I'm trying to buy a fucking Samsung phone yeah in America there is no official yes we do business we operate in English press two for Spanish press three for but most people like like, most people even if they speak minor mangoes they just came from Mexico. They're a fucking construction worker. They can order a sandwich and you don't have to give them a hard time. You don't have to do get a hard they do and they shouldn't Yeah, exactly. It's the assholes giving them a hard time no disagreement but here Ty is there like everything is in Thai. There's no any any ease that they make for you in English is a privilege right? It's not appreciate Yeah, shouldn't be yeah and it's not they don't have to do that. And so there Singapore people go

Unknown Speaker

I'm sorry my English Yeah, look Thank

Mike Somerville

you. Yeah, for speaking Yeah, my eyes sucks

Dana Blouin

Yeah, so I mean if you learned a little bit of Thai like if you if you knew like 50 words it take you worlds Yeah.

Unknown Speaker

Now that I know you know tourism might not open up for a little while longer it's probably time to start learning hearts asking

Mike Somerville

rose means because that's what she says all the time.

Dana Blouin

I told you last night noise that is bad news bad news.

Mike Somerville

Just got hot in here.

Unknown Speaker

So another challenge here is imports like if I want something from America or something of like really quality imported it's very expensive or it's it's harder to find.

Dana Blouin

So what are you talking about in specific specifically cereal? cereal? cereal? Yeah, I need my frosted flakes.

Unknown Speaker

I'm an I'm an addict. I'm not afraid to admit I'm a cereal addict. My first stelton to me from

Dana Blouin

what do you like?

Unknown Speaker

cereal? Yeah, Lucky Charms

Unknown Speaker

because they cost 400 bucks

Unknown Speaker

yeah $2 a box in the US 1012 bucks

Mike Somerville

here. Oh my god lucky Okay, second one.

Unknown Speaker

A checks rice.

Unknown Speaker

You notice these are cereals actually lucky charms isn't as much sugar as you

Dana Blouin

can't you can get corn checks here I've never they don't really eat rice cereal here because it's like offensive. Like why would you put rice in a cereal? You monster make corn like they love corn like so like corn taxes like you can get that

Unknown Speaker

and I you know this is sad but I don't even remember my other favorites. I have that's a that's a good as wheat Chapman crap. Why don't eat it because as we

Dana Blouin

know wheat Yeah.

Mike Somerville

It's that green. And

Unknown Speaker

that is it. Hello. So

Dana Blouin

I eat oatmeal. Probably every day. I have something good for you. But uh, my favorite cereal like it's just gonna be old man style, but a Grape Nuts. Oh.

Mike Somerville

You must have epic teeth. Right?

Dana Blouin

You got to let them soak for like 10 minutes. Totally. Throw some fucking

Unknown Speaker

what happens if you let it soak for 15 minutes.

Mike Somerville

You can build houses, right?

Dana Blouin

There's like there's like a, like a two minute window to

Unknown Speaker

dive. It's like a phone call your

Dana Blouin

it's like like one cup of greatness like 45,000 calories. Right? So you couldn't eat it because it's like pure. We got to put all this sugar. And I'm curious like Who the fuck what was that name Grape Nuts because it's like there's nothing great about it. Nothing nutty about it. It's like Apple caulk.

Mike Somerville

Apple calm Is that wrong?

Dana Blouin

Apple Jackson good cereal. Hey, yeah, so Froot Loops Froot Loops is my go to

Unknown Speaker

for us, Tony like totally like we're all been here almost six years and has been literally like we're long term experts. This is our home. Do you foresee yourself making this your home?

Unknown Speaker

Yeah, it was either between here or Philippines but I like Thailand because the infrastructure technologies internet speed and I like The economy I like that it's even easier for someone to just open up their own business or just get a job like before this whole COVID thing the economy and Thailand summit, one of the best I've ever seen. Any girl I ever knew, because I just I interface with a lot of girls as really like, understand their perspective. Those

Dana Blouin

four dudes are all in this room. Like, I know another dude in the gym to His name's Bob or something.

Mike Somerville

They all have great boots.

Unknown Speaker

But I noticed that, you know, in America, someone's looking for a job. They're on unemployment, a job. And in Thailand, they're looking for a job within one week. They've got a job. Yeah, I've never seen someone in Thailand before. COVID Yeah, I struggle with finding a 99 point.

Mike Somerville

knoppers Yeah, my rate was point 6% unemployment.

Dana Blouin

I have my own business. I always say like, if I need I can go teach English. I can go teach at university. Right? It's not a big deal. Like there's always work if you're willing to do it. I mean, there are a lot of people here just not willing to do a lot of expats here not willing to do what

Unknown Speaker

the Thai people have. They don't need a lot of money to live a decent quality. Yeah, so this also it's kind of like Mexico is you know, it's also kind of makes them lazy in a way that they just don't really try really hard. Like I'm happy that's good. You know, as an as a Westerner, all say, we are very innovative and we are especially if we're worldly, and we're traveling we're also probably willing to work a lot harder more and more so it's very easy for us to come over here and I find it make a build a good business or have a good job or something like that. I think that's also why the Thai people try really hard to keep foreigners from working in Thailand because the other if otherwise foreigners would come in and there would be no job

Unknown Speaker

yeah, we're buying from a lot of different industries. So

Dana Blouin

there's like the 16 jobs you can't work in here most of that but a lot of foreigners don't want to work there Yeah, well so there's like there's certain things that are cultural that Thais restrict foreigners from working in because it's they see it as part of their call amulet sale. Yeah, sure. Oh, and making I think anyone could sell but so what you said like we're innovative, we can start a business that's like that's the four people here that's a lot of expats in in Thailand, but a lot of them also just feel entitled to like, these are the ones who don't do so well. The ones who are like I should just be making more because I'm a foreigner already or like you should hire me because I'm a foreigner. Like you still have to prove that you're worth something right especially if you want to work for someone else. If you don't want to be your own boss you got to prove that they need to pay you because you're gonna make money for

Mike Somerville

well being having integrity i think is a pretty good global Yeah, no matter what. True that you mentioned the Philippines I get a lot of buddies and they're like yeah, Thailand's really cool Mike and you're going to beaches. This is awesome. But I like the Philippines because of the English right? That's easier. What about Vietnam? Obviously, you've done the Southeast Asia Tour.

Unknown Speaker

I love Vietnam, but they they don't speak much English. They agreed

Dana Blouin

less than here. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker

And I haven't been to Cambodia or Laos or Burma because it's

Dana Blouin

not a scumbag. Laos is okay to go to Well, yeah, I mean, yeah, it gets your seal of approval. Good luck

Mike Somerville

to you throw everybody in Cambodia.

Dana Blouin

Any any. Any experts with child sex pass? Eric and

Mike Somerville

I are gonna go to Cambodia take a picture in front of a library and say look at this motherfucking

Unknown Speaker

books. I got books now.

Dana Blouin

Here's the thing, like you go to a like so Angkor Wat right? seomra normal place but even there like, there are people you'll see signs like oh, like, like, they'll put up things like a like a go go show or whatever. And they'll take you 10 minutes outside of the city. And it's like fucking child brothels. Yeah. Okay.

Unknown Speaker

It's a massive problem when Kim Yeah, like they have signs. I'm not really gonna talk about it. We're really going to have a conversation about, you know, sex trafficking and child prostitution is Asia. Like, Thailand is probably way back in the list of places you start. Yeah, I was going to Cambodia Laos. I parts of Vietnam Vietnam. Myanmar for sure. Myanmar. Cambodia is number one casting Yeah, you see it you're like what the five

Dana Blouin

star hotels in Phnom Penh will have signs on every door. Child a child prostitution is a crime if you see it reported Call this number. Yeah, right. And everywhere you go has that time because it is such a problem. And

Mike Somerville

you go to a five star resort here in Thailand. It's like Dude, no, Dorian. Yeah. Whatever you bring a kid in.

Dana Blouin

Because it's not an issue here. People in Thai people wouldn't stand for it. Right? Like, that's not that's not what they want in Cambodia. They're like $5 Okay, and that's it. Right? Yeah.

Unknown Speaker

Well, if you like young, I actually usually like more experienced women.

Dana Blouin

I'm the same way I prefer a woman my age like, Mm hmm.

Unknown Speaker

But if you like the young girls, and I've been trying out some of the younger girls lately, and

Dana Blouin

over 18 you may think

Unknown Speaker

they're like 2024, but they look like they're 16 and almost like I'm sleeping with a 23 year old. She's got two kids. She looks like she's right and posted it on Instagram. And everybody was like you sicko pedophile these days. I'm like, This girl is 23 and has two kids. How many kids do you have?

Unknown Speaker

If you find Ariana Grande a attractive you're probably

Unknown Speaker

like 28 Eric knows

Dana Blouin

Jim like no one thinks she's 40

Unknown Speaker

No. Wife looks like she's fucking 22

Mike Somerville

Asian women in general.

Dana Blouin

The other day she showed up with her school she studied Oh, right. She shows up with her uniform on. Like you've made my dream a reality majority for wrong now with like a high school girl.

Mike Somerville

But I had a friend back in the United States Thai girl, right? She came to campus, I worked at university and we were like friends and you know, it's kind of common. You hold hands, right? Just like fingers, but you just like walking across campus. And I'm like, really open minded. Absolutely. And I'm like, we can't walk across campus. I mean, she's 30 but she looks you know, freakin 12 years old. Yeah, you know, and so but that's a big one. I wonder why that is? I mean, I know that they're like using the umbrellas not in the sun. But it could be diet to

Unknown Speaker

diet stress free life. Yes. Yeah, you

Unknown Speaker

know, my favorite thing about living here is I can live here for the next 50 years and do fucking nothing and be totally okay with Yeah, totally. But in the West, you're constantly being told you're a failure. Or you're not progressing catch up or notice person's got a house in two cars. You gotta catch that guy.

Dana Blouin

So yeah, I have friends only I don't want a car. I don't even drive anymore. How do you live like we have a train I got a drive I got a motorcycle, whatever the fuck I want. Cuz I think in general in Asia, of course genetics plays into it. Yeah, but the cultures are significantly more relaxed. I think diet to Tony's point. Yeah, no, you're going to street food. You're not getting a fucking antibiotic full burger. And even like if you got a Bert like a local beef. There's very little factory farming in Thailand. Right? So none of its corn fed. None of it's a corn fed but it's not to the level of the US. They have to get it from yet. MC in none of it is like chock full of antibiotics. Like you go to esign you see a cow hanging out on the side of the road. Skinny is fine. Right? It's not given milfit growing it just takes a while. Yeah. So I think diet genetics, but then also like to two terms. So bicep I in my pen, right? Yeah. Right. Like, it's okay. It's easy, easy life. I'm fine. My pin, right. No big deal. Doesn't matter. No. Yeah. So and I think that's, you know, that's that's a big part of, that's a big part of life. Hey, roses laughing over here. She's like,

Mike Somerville

in my opinion, right.

Dana Blouin

She's like, Tony, Tony, more sex.

Mike Somerville

Alright, so that's a big thing, right? I mean, there's there's like stereotype sex in Thailand, that sort of thing. And obviously, you're very visible. But you also got tons of buddies that are back in the United States. They see you doing what you're doing? They see me, Dana, same thing with Eric. They're like, I want to do what you do over there. What's like some of the advice you give your buddies that are probably listening to this podcast that want to come to Thailand,

Unknown Speaker

like what do you do? First of all, they have to tell their wives and girlfriends. What they think I do is repulsive. Yeah, right. Right. Everybody's got to keep up this facade in the US right? And when they get the chance to pull me aside like Dude, so like, today, like how much

Unknown Speaker

is this for real money? We're

Mike Somerville

on that boat.

Dana Blouin

That's a big part of the problem to those these guys are they're not honest with themselves and getting married. They don't want to be right then, like Eric said, they're trying to like, oh, every All my friends are married. I'm 30. I gotta get married. But none of them are fucking happy. Right? If again, you come here, like, if you if you can't be honest with yourself, or you're not honest with your partner, you just kind of close issue. Well,

Mike Somerville

how many times you have buddies back in the US and they're like, dude, I gotta go over there because you're dating hot chicks. And they're young and it's really awesome. You know, they come over here and I'm like, dude, you brought your asshole with you. Yeah, like you're a complete No wonder you can have a healthy buckets. You can't have a healthy relationship. The United States Dude, what? Are you gonna double click on

Unknown Speaker

that over here? Where you were to guys like, Oh, I want to come see Prince. I want to come out. I fuck yeah, come out and bring my wife.

Mike Somerville

Yo, fuckin. Where are you going potty?

Unknown Speaker

No, no, we're not going to Patti attire. today. We're going to Koh Samui like, and yeah, there's a beach that we can dress up. So I started we were talking about this, this company that was started before COVID. So it was specifically designed for men. Say you're based in Germany based in Tokyo area us and you get a job a quick, you know, one week trip to Thailand for work, okay? You don't know anybody. So you hire my company. And our job is to make sure you don't get fucked over with fake alcohol. Right? The girls aren't ripping you off all these different things. But another service that me and my partner discuss was the the the the illusion, creating that illusion that you know, you're not at soy cowboy every single night. Even though you might be there. Okay, it's the it's the rooftop bars and temple, temples wapo there's a watch the show of it. And the reason that I had this idea was because of a family member that comes to me isn't me I don't want to put him on blast because he will hear this. He comes to visit me. And we always have to do these. like come on man you know this is I gotta go to none but but but like alibi the video yeah and I'm like man I want to fucking do this well I love you because your mom yeah my family but it was like when it came to the business so many people that we spoke to was like fuck yeah,

Mike Somerville

I would pay for you to show me in front of a nun. Yeah,

Unknown Speaker

exactly.

Mike Somerville

I mean, I don't want to get out more but I mean isn't I mean you're perpetuating a lie. Why don't you just tell you how to just fucking suck up your marriage sucks get divorced,

Unknown Speaker

because here's the reality. Okay,

Mike Somerville

I know, we know that.

Unknown Speaker

Yeah, we know that right? And we're out of the matrix. We don't we have nothing to lose by such a

Dana Blouin

great way to fucking put it out of the mean.

Unknown Speaker

Like we were out

Dana Blouin

for America is the matrix.

Unknown Speaker

You know, you rarely see a cipher who wants to go back in Yeah, like once you get out you're out. But I understand people who want to stay plugged in because the safe is easy as warmers cozy Yeah, no structure

Mike Somerville

if I stay it is that if I stay married, it won't bankrupt me. Yeah, it's, it's my it's

Dana Blouin

my role. The guy who works you know, fucking 40 hours a week for 50 years. Me or Mary's the office Hor fucking complains when she cheats on them. keeps giving her kids fucking sign over his check. He told him look 60 at 40 fuckin driving the four door sedan to work every day.

Mike Somerville

I would submit that that's more of a ripe audience that we need to bring. I mean, again, after

Dana Blouin

they get vacations to Disney World that you've pretended you fucking love wearing those ears in the fucking Orlando heat and humidity. I got

Mike Somerville

so many buddies back in San Diego about my age. I'm 52. Right? So like late 40s, early 50s. And they're like, dude, I've got to go. They get divorced. And I said, Dude, doesn't matter what had come to Thailand. Yeah, you need to get the potty out of your system or keep doing it.

Dana Blouin

You get a little patio in your system. Yeah. And again, again. Antibiotics over the counter here just so everyone knows if you only have

Unknown Speaker

three or four days don't come. Right. Don't waste your time. Yeah, but give me give me two weeks. Two weeks I'll change your fucking life. Change

Mike Somerville

Your Life. Absolutely.

Unknown Speaker

Every single every man. Every man should come to town and I'm not talking about just straight me. Oh, I get a man as well. Yes. Every man should come to Thailand for two weeks and have another man show him.

Mike Somerville

Yeah, who's been here?

Unknown Speaker

Fuck that generation. guy who lives right wing man. Well,

Dana Blouin

look straight up if you're if you're taking itinerary vacations, that's part of the problem to begin with.

Unknown Speaker

Yeah, I've got

Dana Blouin

14 days, every hour scheduled. Let's go

Mike Somerville

now. A few Chinese you doing that? Yeah. And that's just

Dana Blouin

yeah, that's funny. Yeah, like 17 buses pull up to the fucking erawan Shrine, they all rush out take 700 photos, leave shit on the ground, jump back in. So

Mike Somerville

first time I came to Thailand, I did the whole I did Bangkok for a few days and then basically potty for three weeks. And I've never done this on a vacation. I've never gone to like, you know, disneyland or whatever. I go back home and I'm like, dude, I'm back here. Three months later, less than three months later. I've never done that. never gone to the Florida Keys and been like, no, what you do in the US is you're like, yeah, we're doing it. No one wants to be there. Like, dude, I'm doing this again, a year from now. Like, this is gonna be our annual vacation. We'll go to Maui. And I'm back here because I was so it was so different. It was so different. But I felt so natural. It felt so that I wouldn't feel like honestly, if I was with a hooker in the in like Las Vegas, United States. I'm like,

Dana Blouin

I kind of feel a little dirty. Whereas I

Mike Somerville

can. It's like, Well, no, it's just some girl that I met. Yeah, that's her job. But I mean, for some reason, I just didn't judge it the same way. I didn't need

Dana Blouin

it also, because there's not the stigma attached to it. Why the US people probably still look. Also there guys in the USA think every girl in Thailand? Yeah. And there's a lot of guys who think that no matter who it is, you say the word Thailand? Yeah.

Mike Somerville

And they're like, oh,

Dana Blouin

Thailand, you say finally.

Mike Somerville

It's only if you're a real high performance leader. A lot of integrity.

Dana Blouin

You go to Thailand, visit Bangkok. But But seriously, I mean, it's it is a completely different perception. And, you know, I love the matrix analogy because that is what Bangkok is, is you know, you've broken all the matrix and it's not just Bangkok, right for you. It could be it could be Mexico City could be Romania, it could be Mongolia. The US, the US is the matrix in when you join jack out or whatever when jack off jack out or jack. But I forget where it may have been a few years since I watched the toski only the first one is is worth

Mike Somerville

Yeah, I was gonna say yeah, this is

Dana Blouin

actually the last time the last time I watched the entire trilogy was on my flight from Japan to Bangkok. Okay. When I first moved here, it was on the other thing, so I was like, I watch all three. I'm like, there's a reason I didn't watch two and three. Yeah, that's the ending. Now they're doing a reboot. Is it a reboot? Or is a fourth one? Yeah, four. Yeah, but no kiato account I was in it.

Mike Somerville

I was gonna say it without him it would be kind of weird. the

Dana Blouin

only the only the only camera movie I care about right now is the next bill and Ted. Oh yeah, this is crazy.

Unknown Speaker

Man we have like, do you guys just a little segue? Do you guys really appreciate how great our fucking lives are? Oh my god like, we live like think about us when we were 15 talking to ourselves

Dana Blouin

jacket jacket off to the fucking Sears catalog

Mike Somerville

for 15 minutes for me

Dana Blouin

to issue now I've been to Borneo.

Mike Somerville

I say to guys, I said Dude, I'm the luckiest guy in the fucking world now and anyone who lives here they respond no Mike I am Yeah. Because Yeah, exactly what

Unknown Speaker

my girlfriends know. That's how I know I want to hang out with

Unknown Speaker

my girlfriend.

Dana Blouin

Tony says have you seen my girlfriend's seen my

Mike Somerville

boat? I mean, it's like filming. Alright, so you've been here for about seven months full time. Yeah, what do you like looking forward to doing like you're like oh man, he's six year guys these four year guys I want to do this, this and this and this. I do want to open up a pharmaceutical company here and use the board of investment Ah,

Dana Blouin

oh boi is a

Unknown Speaker

great idea. Eventually. I really want to master the relationships here. I feel like I'm getting better and better at dealing with the women understanding their thought process and having better quality relationships and exploring who's not frowning

Mike Somerville

so I think you're doing the right trajectory.

Unknown Speaker

Yeah, and I have explored very little this time Okay, you know usually I'm just on the run constantly Yeah, but but the whole quarantine lockdown thing even though we didn't have to stay in our condos. There wasn't curfew. It was still like everything was closed and dead and so just

Dana Blouin

so you live in patio full time though, right? It's like it's your home base.

Unknown Speaker

Yeah 80% patio 20% Bangkok

Dana Blouin

What made you pick patio over Bangkok?

Unknown Speaker

Well, they when the lockdown happen I always loved spending time in patio but I thought okay, I'll just go down there and party and come back Yes, we'll be home base at the gym and muscle factory gym is a world famous gym here in Bangkok and fitness influencers we're gonna fly in from all over the world do content with me? Yes. But when there was no travel then everything was closed down in Bangkok and it's it's a big city Yeah, it starts it started feeling like a prison to me like oh god I can't I can't walk I can't do like what the benefits of Bangkok is you have access to so many different things you can food places lows, massage places all that and I go to Patti and Patti and never really shut down completely Yeah. And there was there was a lot of stuff was still open Yeah. And in the beach was open and up until a certain way beach eventually closed. So I thought how am I going to work out the gyms are closed Okay, there's outdoor gyms I use those those closed one by one. Eventually, everything closed up more, but then opened up fairly quickly after. And I was able to find girls there was there was still girls, there was not as many a lot of them went back home to the villages. But there was still enough so I was able to party during this.

Mike Somerville

This I mean, all the foreigners left to right. So you're like was kind of like, I mean, you maybe didn't have as much choices before, it was still a good ratio. So you know that let's talk about you said about making content because again, I didn't know that much about you before and maybe other listeners don't. Where are all the places people can find you? obviously we'll put in the show notes, the websites that sort of thing. But like it mean your top sort of five offerings to the world like what is YouTube Instagram? Like? What's the best way to learn how

Dana Blouin

g store

Unknown Speaker

pG?

Unknown Speaker

Yeah, you're only getting 2%

Dana Blouin

now My mind is blown. Because what I saw was, god damn

Unknown Speaker

eases. Yeah, and the problem is with a censorship like I used to be able to show a lot of really cool stuff on YouTube, Snapchat, okay, and that's why I grew so fast, but then I got censored for so many reasons. Like I can't even use sometimes I was getting censored for you censored using the word ladyboy I think it's a legitimate term Yeah, I What am I supposed to use some politically correct gender identification a transgender

Dana Blouin

woman

Mike Somerville

such you're talking about on YouTube

Unknown Speaker

we got that was Instagram you're

Dana Blouin

not even on YouTube anymore. I

Unknown Speaker

I'm on YouTube but every time I build a channel up to 20,000 subscribers it gets censored again Jesus Christ like I've built you know 15 channels

Dana Blouin

because I used to watch enhance athlete and then that just sort of went away.

Unknown Speaker

If you look up Tony huge on YouTube, you'll still find a lot and you'll find some channels.

Dana Blouin

I find you on content. So when I searched Tony huge other people's channels, come on.

Unknown Speaker

Well, yeah, and I do a lot of interviews on it. But like, I don't

Dana Blouin

find like your content at all, like your original.

Unknown Speaker

That's because I'm shadowbanned on everything. But one of the channel names is Tony huge censored.

Dana Blouin

Oh, God, are you guys censored,

Unknown Speaker

okay? And it's a shadow ban. So like, you got to look on page three. You got to type in Tony. The algorithms burying you burying me on every social media platform.

Mike Somerville

Yeah, so that's YouTube. And then so but Instagram, the stuff you post that gets sensor two.

Unknown Speaker

Yep, yep. I mean, I have 140,000 subscribers on on Instagram, right? But it's not able to grow beyond that because it's shadowbanned I

Dana Blouin

think Twitter's the platform for you. They seem to be what you

Unknown Speaker

can post videos. It's not like videos, or text messages. Yeah, my power is the ability to use a video to change people's perspective. And it was always a tool I love by advanced bodybuilding. I love chemistry of the human body and being enhanced. But what I'm really passionate about is like changing the politics to be more accepting, because that is the fundamental root problem that's limiting people's access to this stuff. If you if you got rid of the censorship, then we could have so many more discussions about some other things. So what I had to do is kind of beat around the bush and, and use bodybuilding chemistry to open people's mind about the politics which would then in turn open up more possibilities for pioneering more bodybuilding chemists.

Mike Somerville

How do I get more of that

Dana Blouin

goes back to the whole fake Natty thing I guess right that education Yeah, fake fake now these are fake 90s because if not, they're getting shadow banned. like Tony huge. Yep, that's one of those are like,

Mike Somerville

calm or so like, how do I I see you leave this door. I'm like, shit, I want more. You know, I'm saying

Unknown Speaker

Yeah, no, I'm always putting up new sites. I mean, even web domains get censored. If it's ends in.com the US government can take your domain and they've done that multiple times. So now Icelands domains are more protected and they can Panama domains are protected. Things are shifting over to these offshore domains. I Oh,

Dana Blouin

Indian Ocean.

Unknown Speaker

I Oh, yeah. Okay, that's good

Dana Blouin

CEO was CEO, Columbia, Columbia. I've got a couple CEOs I got a couple aios because you're

Mike Somerville

at the point now where you're like, more educated had more experience now a full time xpat I would think you would be infinitely more desirable globally than before, which but you can't you're gonna have to do like, leaflets like leave them clanging and banging.

Unknown Speaker

I do. I'll do another movie. Okay. And every time I do that, it kind of picks up so picks up some audience across all platforms. Okay. There's, there's actually a movie, I already recorded a third movie that's going to come out in January, that's going to be massive, but I am not allowed to say anything about it. But we'll have you back on where you will

Dana Blouin

come back. Anytime. So where's it gonna be released? You personally handling your own distribution? Are you working with

Unknown Speaker

a third movie? Yeah, that's gonna be aired on network television. Oh, wow. Like ABC, CBS or Yeah, that's gonna go over.

Mike Somerville

That's awesome.

Unknown Speaker

Yeah, so that one will be a big one. And that then that finally that really gets me in the main, like, main mainstream. Yeah. Because that's, you know, I want to teach the advanced I want to teach the intermediate people more of the advanced chemistry, but I also want to take people who are so closed minded about it and just open their minds up a little bit, kind of just let them see what it looks like outside Patrick's. So I really want to get back in the mainstream.

Dana Blouin

I think that's one of the things like rich Piana did a good job of sort of skirting and he had other issues we know he was using stuff that people don't know about but he got into the mainstream for also his freakish looks right. He was like, all of us combined. But uh, like, it's an education issue, which becomes ultimately when you talk about chemistry, safety. Right? I think you were talking about insulin right? One very dangerous drug to just fuck around with. Listen to some sleazy dude with a ponytail and a fanny pack in the gym locker room about how to take it like you. You need someone who knows what they're talking about.

Unknown Speaker

Luckily, most people are extremely cautious about insulin like you you're worried like people are worried about oh my god, if Tony huge talks about insulin, everyone's gonna check it take insulin, but when I talk to people, they're like, whoa, I'm scared. insulins dangerous. Okay, that's good. Yeah, right. That's actually the talking point. Let's start with that. And then you know, with rather than say, Oh, it's no problem and then try to give all the warning.

Dana Blouin

Here's the thing, right with hormones, steroids, testosterone or steroids. You fuck up a little bit. One dose one cycle. Yeah, you can recover, right? Like there's no way you can die in a day. Yeah, it's like you get the dosage wrong. Maybe you're dead.

Mike Somerville

Or if you take those damn brownies that he was giving me Yeah.

Dana Blouin

Don't Don't take edibles from

Unknown Speaker

what he could never walk forward again.

Mike Somerville

Do not go to Eric's edibles.com stay away from that domain. Oh,

Dana Blouin

what happened with it looks I was taking my blood pressure at the same time I'm looking at my phone. Like I've got my cup on right my cups which isn't constantly walking around walking backwards. I was downstairs in the studio in the design studio. My blood pressure was so low. That's why my heart rate was so high. This is

Unknown Speaker

this is good to have these type of experiences because then you appreciate also being sober.

Dana Blouin

I've taken in the past I've had too much like especially when I when I first moved in California. I had the edibles back 20 years ago. Right? It's okay. And you could do like 20 milligrams. It's like nothing. Right? But there's a few times I had a bit too much as before you met Eric and then Yeah, before I can connect Yeah. I'm still afraid to like I did a few drops of the oil and I'm like, I don't want to go back to

Unknown Speaker

how does the cookie, cookie?

Dana Blouin

Cookie? He didn't need a cookie since that I threw it away. I should not give it to a dog. It's like

Mike Somerville

they're all walking backwards.

Dana Blouin

So I was afraid because that's 15. Like, something in my mind. I'm like, What if the mix wasn't suspended? Well, it's like, all 15 is in this upper right corner that I try. Of course, you started having these crazy thoughts. Yeah, that's part of it. fucking dead.

Unknown Speaker

Yes. So with the cannabis, it's good that it's legal here with prescription. So I got myself a prescription. I got myself a prescription for a couple things. Because one of the things that I don't like about Thailand is the drug laws are pretty strict. Yeah, so I want to protect myself. So I go and I get prescriptions for everything I use. And they can urine test you here for no probable cause. Unlike us. I heard this in your other podcast too. Yeah. And I knew about this before. So getting a prescription is a safe way to use cannabis. Or the safest.

Unknown Speaker

Don't just run up in a club.

Dana Blouin

also feels like a scumbag. generally not urine testing. You

Unknown Speaker

know, not the clubs here.

Dana Blouin

Oh, if you had a club

Unknown Speaker

Yeah, it doesn't matter. They did close down soy six and urine test everybody.

Unknown Speaker

Oh, yeah. It's

Mike Somerville

all the Patriots. You mean?

Unknown Speaker

Yes.

Unknown Speaker

Everybody gets and they caught like 10 people on meth. Okay, actually, there's a lot of people on that street so it was actually not a lot yeah,

Dana Blouin

but that's probably what they're looking for. Yeah, but cuz y'all was like the biggest rockin killer Yeah,

Unknown Speaker

Yaba or pay off Yeah, right.

Unknown Speaker

So I'm very pro you know, freedom of to use drugs. I don't but meth is one that I think should should not be leaked. Yeah, there's there's a line meth heroin not

Dana Blouin

his I also think legal so I'm like, I think it's totally different approach. I think if you if you legalize it, you take the bottom out of the black black market these things also makes them safer.

Unknown Speaker

decriminalized or legalized

Dana Blouin

so well. So I think if you legalize it, though, when you make, you know, readily available versions of it, it's regulated and safe. You tax the fuck out of it? Because it's a recreational thing. Amsterdam, right. I think the same thing with alcohol, right? Like tax the fuck out of alcohol like they do with imported alcohol here. I'll tell you I don't want to pay $60 for a bottle of bourbon, but you know you want it. Yeah.

Mike Somerville

From my personal experience. I mean, cuz I've had this debate and this discussion with a lot of people and when I was using cocaine, if I could have gone to 711 and bought it. I'd be fucking dead right now.

Dana Blouin

Yeah, but at the same time, like you also wouldn't have to worry about buying cocaine. That's fucking rat poison. I never bought shitty coke. No, but you don't know. Like some trust me. Of course. You don't think you bought shitty cocaine? You're here. But there are people who are late who are just assholes who will buy cars. Yeah, they don't. They're not putting like no one's putting rat poison cocaine because they they think it's a good idea. Like that's what's available. What do I have? That's why the baby powder Well, I don't know what this fucking anticoagulant means I'll I'll put this in the coke. All right, and I think if you had regulated legalize drugs that everyone could do, but then you have to have ready readily available funded treatment centers for people to and there are you know, you know, well in the region where you can they'll give you heroin for free. Well, they give you

Mike Somerville

methadone. Yeah, no,

Dana Blouin

no, there's a place where they'll give you heroin, and then they'll because I think they have a they have a safe, safe space you go in and you do it there and it's safe, but then they'll give you counseling afterwards be like Dude, do you want to methadone? Do you want to get clean? I don't

Mike Somerville

think it's so much the heroin I think it's the clean needles. I think that's mainly there for obviously read, you know, HIV and hepatitis.

Unknown Speaker

But then once again, this is a conversation about how great it is to live outside of United States. Yeah. Because you have places like in Europe that they decriminalized drugs you know you have now we have a vice president candidate that through how many men in jail for fucking weed?

Dana Blouin

Yeah, how many years yeah,

Mike Somerville

that I think that's for that

Dana Blouin

black woman though. Sure. Black woman though. Fucking hell. That the democratic tickets a shit show for sure. And of course Biden waited until people were like it has to be a black woman. So isn't a lose lose if he doesn't pick a black woman? Yep. He's ignorant to the to the voice of the general public. If he does pick a black woman though he's a push away leader.

Unknown Speaker

He announced that during the debates that it was guarantee he was going to pick a black woman's vice president. Yeah,

Dana Blouin

but he didn't say who or he didn't say Who do you say something a woman he guaranteed to be a woman not a black woman. Okay,

Mike Somerville

based on what we said black woman. Why?

Dana Blouin

Cuz someone asked him like would you pick a woman running ladies, I guarantee If I get the nomination I'll pick a woman. And then like last week, someone just qualified regard so well last week there was an op ed and a bunch of people saying, oh, he needs to pick a black woman because he said a woman. I'm almost hundred percent positive said woman.

Unknown Speaker

Push up that push up that

Dana Blouin

Tony's over here like Lady boy. Yeah. Why is it a lady boy by the President. But America's politically fought like america's got Jesus law, right? So they're good.

Mike Somerville

But God, I'm so glad Jesus, I love Buddhism. Dude, it's cool.

Dana Blouin

Jesus was 16th in his fucking SUV

Mike Somerville

now. It was around like 500 years before? Oh, God.

Unknown Speaker

Yeah, I've been in this game way longer. Yeah,

Mike Somerville

2563. Baby. Sure. Yeah.

Dana Blouin

Was my Ganesha nailed me to a cross,

Unknown Speaker

dude, supply supply.

Unknown Speaker

Man, it's like, Southeast Asia. People who don't come here. Don't get it. Yeah, I'm not Buddhist. But I love Buddhists.

Mike Somerville

Yeah, that's precisely the point. It's

Unknown Speaker

like is it you just see how different a culture based around that faith is,

Mike Somerville

and no one cares whether you are. But if you show up to find out information, they're like, Oh, yeah, sure. I'll tell you. Let me teach you. Yeah. It's awesome.

Dana Blouin

I've had coffee with monks like 711. Right? they'll pop in, like, I started

Mike Somerville

talking to him the more because you know how they do the ohms are walking down the street. And I thought, okay, like, he's a holy guy, like he's not supposed to. He like comes by me. And I just I said, Look, I don't know what this is like, What do you need? This English was really good. So he starts telling me about it. And I said, you know, what's funny is this in the United States, a lot of people would look at you and think this guy's like begging for food. And and I said, but what do you do? He says, I don't care if he doesn't ask anyone. No, no, in fact, he just like walks, you know, but it's so neat to see that and there's no negative stigma because there's always something negative no matter how positive It is, in the us know how, you know, open minded white, you know, woman or black woman or black man or whatever. There's always some guy that's like, Oh, no, well, let me tell you how bad that is. Yeah, whereas here you go to any Thai person and they're like, there's literally nothing wrong with this. I think fantastic. Eric

Dana Blouin

knows I'm hardcore atheist. And I always argue with Jeb like I'm confident Jim is an atheist is especially she's a scientist. Right? And she's like non Buddhists. Somebody said why

Mike Somerville

Yeah. Because a lot of people will say it's not a religious Yeah,

Dana Blouin

so here's the other thing too is like you can be an atheist Buddhist for sure. Right? It's like she's like no Buddhist not a god we don't have having we don't have God. Like that's animus shit, and like, a lot of times believe that that's fine. That's not my Buddhism.

Mike Somerville

Yeah, no persecution. God

Dana Blouin

damn Why are you making it so difficult for me to be ignorant about these things?

Unknown Speaker

I'm white for Christ's

Dana Blouin

sake. I want to be ignorant and I want to be an asshole and you're not making that possible

Mike Somerville

if she says no, trust me You're doing a great job

Dana Blouin

you're an asshole no

Mike Somerville

cookie that Eric gave me cuz I want to see you around like

Dana Blouin

Eric left this for you. This is like your real Buddhist real fucking talk be talking to fucking Buddha.

Unknown Speaker

So rose here was on mushrooms and she had quite the Buddhist experience. I

Mike Somerville

want to get her a microphone because she explained what it is.

Dana Blouin

Yeah, yeah.

Unknown Speaker

Rose you want to talk tell it tell us real quick Tell us what happened? Who how what was the spiritual experience? What did you become? What did you transform into?

Unknown Speaker

Yeah, just come down. Relax,

Mike Somerville

relax even more so yes.

Unknown Speaker

But what animal did you become? Yeah well first she has first she was some sort of cat and so she was acting like a cat okay in every way and then she became a green dragon snake. Good job.

Mike Somerville

Did you like

Unknown Speaker

a more or less mushrooms? I've got video I'll show you

Unknown Speaker

the right video. Did you

Mike Somerville

put like 151

Unknown Speaker

I start breeding like fire

Dana Blouin

ship first time on mushrooms second second time on motion my first time on mushrooms was horrible.

Mike Somerville

No Never did mushrooms either.

Unknown Speaker

Yeah my first time was on Oh really? It was it was a bad trip also

Dana Blouin

Yeah. My first time on acid was a bad trip as well. And I should I got dose so so these so it would be funny and they dose me and I didn't. Fucking freaked out fucked up. Subsequent trips on both mushrooms and acid were quite nice. You're like I got this.

Mike Somerville

Yeah, I know. Exactly.

Dana Blouin

If you if you prepare for it, especially with like any hallucinogen. You gotta prepare for you set up a space

Mike Somerville

and you have a buddy right? Like you don't you do it alone. Like a good idea. I wouldn't do it alone. Yeah, okay, fair enough.

Unknown Speaker

Yeah, I only do some brownies.

Mike Somerville

Really? And you were like I'm never doing over 10 but you know, these will be great for you. Yeah,

Dana Blouin

yeah. I got those. Maybe five milligram that's like easily like a 400 milligram raw rice crispy. This motherfucker

Unknown Speaker

I got dosed with ecstasy the other day the other day yeah I'm saying but

Mike Somerville

nobody was cool though or someone trying to fucking kill you and some

Unknown Speaker

really wanted me to they wanted me to part because I have a list of drugs that I won't do surprising right because I do a lot of right I don't do math heroin or ecstasy actually okay i mean the most mild I just don't want to damage my serotonin crackers because I think my serotonin levels already love Greg right right okay and you're not a big fan I don't want to be cooking Good for you. I think there's an alternative drugs that can get us almost there. Yeah outside effect right. That's what I have fun experiment. Right. Have you

Dana Blouin

tried that was called Osceola Iowa Hiawatha I

Unknown Speaker

have not done I asked. I do intend I do plan on it.

Dana Blouin

So I there's so there's a certain extract in the Iosco right is what makes the hallucinations possible to DMT. So, supposedly, like it only lasts like 20 minutes. 15 minutes. Oh my god, we're incredibly addictive. But

Mike Somerville

no, so it's not every 25 you're like, dude,

Dana Blouin

no, no. So apparently, if you don't get high, but there's no high to it, you have it's different than it's not a hallucinogen. So I haven't done it. But we

Mike Somerville

have just better performance or something.

Dana Blouin

No, it's you have it's it changes your state of thinking. Okay, like I've done it. A few people have described it but apparently when you do io oska you get the sheds your fucking Pew killing like it was

Unknown Speaker

chilly. Yeah, and chilly.

Mike Somerville

And you were like this is great. Like Yeah, felt good because

Dana Blouin

the iOS is the DMT comes from one plant and so it's the flower of one plant and the roots of another and they have to combine to make it so once it inhibitor for something that that counteracts the DMT

Unknown Speaker

It was like imagine having like, from a photography standpoint, when somebody turns the saturation up, okay, so my turns to saturation up all the way on like, that's what it was like somebody turned the saturation up and you just see things that you don't like this is amazing. I want to fuck is the moon so bad,

Mike Somerville

but you don't feel freaked out like you know what if you're on acid right now the camera just stopped. You want to like use your camera so we can get this whole thing on YouTube?

Dana Blouin

Oh, sorry. We gotta leave. We'll put we'll put a graphic. Alright, fair enough. I

Unknown Speaker

got plenty of B roll for

Dana Blouin

it. We'll just make like a leap of view.

Unknown Speaker

You could put the video footage of rose on mushroom. Yes.

Mike Somerville

That would be awesome. I want it dragon head was psyched for that this is gonna be

Dana Blouin

my chat in this video. The behind the scenes

Unknown Speaker

are so bad.

Unknown Speaker

So behind the scenes for when you watch the clip, I was having sex with her the second half of the footage, but you can't see me because I'm filming her upper body. She's just she doesn't know I'm having sex with her. Like she'll see her like come to like sometimes she'll look at me for a second. And then she'll go back into this trance but there's just some behind the scenes.

Mike Somerville

Okay, so you showed it to her afterwards and say you see you know next time you think about dragons, I'm here guy. This is what's gonna happen.

Dana Blouin

She wrote the dragon. So it so you did I was gonna chili. Chili. Yeah. How many times once just

Mike Somerville

Yeah, see, I I don't have that ability.

Unknown Speaker

I don't think it would be addicting is like our mushrooms.

Mike Somerville

I don't think I don't know. But here's what

Dana Blouin

a lot of people who are addicts do io oska. Yeah, I'm not gonna try. So like I don't understand it either. But I don't understand how they can do it. Like if you're people who describe themselves as addicts, like they can't. It doesn't matter if it's coffee or heroin. Yeah, sex money, tax money, heroin, whatever. addict. Yeah, I'm addicted to Facebook. Right. Yeah, my

Mike Somerville

drug of choice is yours and more.

Dana Blouin

Yeah. And so I don't know how like, they'll describe themselves as that but then they do Iosco and they say oh, it's fine like taking

Unknown Speaker

an aspirin. Yeah, it was like it started and and finishes right there's no

Mike Somerville

but I ever done more other drugs that you were like, Oh my god, I gotta stop doing this because I love it so much. I'm addicted to it. I want more ecstasy. Yeah, cuz I hear guys say that to me. They're like, Oh, dude, I tried cocaine one time. But I love that. So

Unknown Speaker

for me, it stays in my system for for at least two days. And you're like, grinding my teeth for sure. So I

Dana Blouin

think if you're grinding your teeth, I don't think that's really ecstasy. I think that's so that's a good point and DMA. So we have this conversation today. MDA is like really a clean kind of high sensation. So it's not as much as that but I think like I knew a guy from Braintree. Yeah, in Boston, who sold ecstasy at this club I worked at this is back in 2019. And before ladyboys

Mike Somerville

were a thing before it

Dana Blouin

was a thing. Yeah. To Braintree. But he was telling me he was just like, he was just mixing the ecstasy from a recipe someone gave him was cocaine, Howard. Yeah, he was ecstasy. Yeah.

Mike Somerville

It wasn't like MDMA. Yeah,

Dana Blouin

it wasn't MDMA. Apparently I love coconut. So trust me So here's the thing, right? Like so speedball people usually snorting coke and heroin right but if you ingest it it's a different mechanism right?

Unknown Speaker

Because all friends they crush it up and I not take it give me one tap and I'm good. Okay, so

Dana Blouin

I think if you're taking like the homemade shit, it's like it's a mix of cocaine.

Unknown Speaker

And heroin is fucking awesome. Yeah, that's my drug but it was one of those drugs where I enjoy it so much. I can't keep doing it. Yeah.

Dana Blouin

Also, I can't fuck on it. Yeah, so it's definitely not MDMA. I'm walking around my big it's just hard

Mike Somerville

to penetrate drywall Yeah, it's like some put a rubber band around my urethra it's

Unknown Speaker

it's frustrating. And it makes me angry like when I'm fucking that I can't Yeah, no, I get it like but that's a whole other time

Dana Blouin

have you done by Agra or? Double Tony cocktail?

Unknown Speaker

Man. I take Viagra every day.

Dana Blouin

Really? Yeah. Every day every headache so Fokker, just as a software

Unknown Speaker

I don't get headaches from so how many would you take like 10 milligrams? 50 milligrams. Usually, if you take 100 that's where you get a stuffy nose.

Mike Somerville

Yeah, so you don't get that. Okay.

Dana Blouin

So you take it to Fokker you take it just take it.

Unknown Speaker

I used to take it for health and pre workout.

Mike Somerville

But I didn't work out well, because blood flow, right?

Unknown Speaker

Yeah, it helps. It helps push blood out of the core of your body where you don't need it as much when you're training. Okay, that pushes it to your extremities. So are you training with a heart? Are you like, you know, because it viagara doesn't really, I mean, there's some things like Atlanta, tan and Pt 141 are peptides

Dana Blouin

that you inject into your deck right

Unknown Speaker

now that you injected anywhere it makes you more tan. Okay, it also gives you bonus random dance for two days straight.

Dana Blouin

There's some like some drug where you inject it right into your deck and I fucking I don't even want to know the name of that.

Unknown Speaker

Yeah, I've used that as near my deck. I've used it

Unknown Speaker

in my shoulders and arms. Yeah, it works in anything you injected. So if you injected your shoulders, your shoulders get this huge pump. Like feels amazing. Yeah,

Mike Somerville

because it's like feels like a big

Dana Blouin

chest day like

Unknown Speaker

Ah, you just get like four hours of the craziest shoulder you

Dana Blouin

do you do viagara as a pre

Unknown Speaker

Yeah, but I but I'm taking it now for sex because like I can't like I can't Ross's insatiable Yeah, I can't I can't I could not keep up otherwise without viagara would not be able to keep up. Yeah.

Mike Somerville

And when did that start happening? Because I'm again in tune to the stereo.

Dana Blouin

Yeah, how do you have this problem? 38 so many women throw pussy. I mean, I'm 52 I get it

Mike Somerville

less blood flow. That's hard to happen but even like in my mid 40s I was still full tilt Boogie,

Unknown Speaker

though. Okay, my ice you know,

Dana Blouin

semi hard right now.

Unknown Speaker

Is that what I feel for that?

Mike Somerville

Cheese Rose was like having an effect on me or something. That's all

Unknown Speaker

you I don't think it's chemical with for my body. I think it was a psychological thing. Just Yeah, accumulation of stress and distraction from sex.

Dana Blouin

Does the gear effect like your sex drive to looks? I've heard some people say like, they can't fuck at all when they're on gear. The first time I

Unknown Speaker

took gear was gears like steroids. Okay. The first time I took it, I had hardcore boners and I was horny and it was amazing. And then that wore off after about three weeks. Okay, and then it kind of decreased.

Dana Blouin

Erica sent me screenshots of like, chicks tell him his dick is too big

Mike Somerville

pictures of his own

Dana Blouin

fucking gear. He's like, he's like, yeah, it's like, not a humble brag but picture picture picture. And girls like, Oh, your dick is bigger than it used to be. I can. My stomach hurts. I think you ruptured it. You

Mike Somerville

have this once you go black. Once you go air rail, absolutely. Go

Dana Blouin

post tr

Unknown Speaker

tr, tr, tr T and Quito.

Unknown Speaker

You're the man it was fucking Yeah. But

Unknown Speaker

I'll see a lot of guys, if they want that extra sex drive. Sometimes they take a little bit more testing. I was gonna say I thought at the end, it improves. Sometimes they had something like a trenbolone which is one of the most hardcore steroids but that makes guys really horny and want to have sex a lot and harder to come in. There's like a big joke like, you know, about bodybuilders just banging for hours not being able to come and just like cardio sessions and

Dana Blouin

that cardio because they're on trend?

Unknown Speaker

Yes, exactly. Oh, is it true that if you take testosterone as a supplement that your body makes less of it because there's some there so actually, it could have a negative effect. If your body's producing very little testosterone and you just bring yourself up to a normal level you're not going to suppress yourself, okay, we're already suppressed for you started taking if you have normal testosterone now you're going to take more than you're going to your body's going to produce less to try to get you back down in the normal so your body's always wants you in a normal range of tests. So

Mike Somerville

in that scenario, going to the doctor getting the task getting the results you can actually rely on that.

Dana Blouin

So that's TRT as opposed to like you're not going full Boston Lloyd where you're at in your, your job in fucking 3000 milligrams of everything in T

Unknown Speaker

so here's here's the dosage difference, TRT an actual TRT dose which is everybody wants a little bit more than tier. Yeah, Roger, the actual TRT dose.

Dana Blouin

A little testosterone is good. So a little bit more must be great

Mike Somerville

resume I think that way a lot. A lot of

Unknown Speaker

so maybe Hundred and 25 milligrams per week, an actual replacement for your natural testosterone. You don't need your bond.

Mike Somerville

So Eric, is that what you're doing? 125 every two weeks, right? 252 51 so it lasts that long. Like, why don't you do it every two days? Do you ever do every

Dana Blouin

ester of the actual? It's how fast it metabolizes, right is how some you would take every day or every week or two weeks or months.

Mike Somerville

You've got the two weeks or weeks is better.

Unknown Speaker

Which one Eric? Are you taking? You know, what's called? Is it sustained on

Mike Somerville

whatever they sell at 711? Right? I mean, he just like get it over there.

Dana Blouin

Yeah, I mean, he's 711 dick pills. Extra session,

Unknown Speaker

I'd say a common mistake people make is not injecting frequently enough in their blood levels do fluctuate, okay? And they're not really mindful of it. And, but eventually they realize, Oh, I feel so much better the five days after I take my shot. And then for the rest of the time, I don't I don't feel okay, this is testosterone inundate. So this has a half life of about 13 days. So that's perfect, but every two weeks but think about it though. Day one and and then you have only half of it left in your system. So your levels are actually fluctuating by a lot Okay, so if you were to do the injection half of that more frequently he probably feel better.

Unknown Speaker

I was recommended to go every 10 days but just my schedule

Mike Somerville

so after you do it like on day 15 for you just get it you come home and you're like Dude, I'm gonna bang like seven chicks and weeks later you're like

Unknown Speaker

No, honestly all it's done for my sex drive. It's just balanced me back out okay, because there were a few there were maybe three

Dana Blouin

here to understand Eric's like balance me back out he was smashing on a bike twice a day anyway, I love

Mike Somerville

it Paulie, because it means many

Unknown Speaker

matches. But there would be I would have these weeks where I didn't want to fuck anyone. Okay, whatever got it. And you know, I started I couldn't drop weight change like what the fuck is going on? And then I went in and got the test and my testosterone was stupid low. Oh, definitely low and that you recommend you might want to look into doing this was here this here?

Mike Somerville

Yeah, cuz I don't think they say that. You

Dana Blouin

know, they'll give you testosterone in the US.

Unknown Speaker

Yeah. And she's like, you want to try my Yeah, fuck it. Let's try it. You like yeah, spread your legs sweetheart. Let's go. It was it was like the first month was like, Okay, and then we were talking about this like first month was dope the second month. Holy shit. It was like I was 25 again.

Mike Somerville

Now is that because your body is building up like a level even if this dissipates

Unknown Speaker

because of the halflife it's accumulating. Okay, body. Yeah. And

Unknown Speaker

it just shifted everything and then I started doing the keto diet is what pushed my sex drive all the way up. Really? It was

Mike Somerville

keto. Okay, I was in combination to be fair with

Unknown Speaker

testosterone but then I went to keto based on you know, meat and butter and fucking fat. But there's like no just makes you tick really hard. Okay, lose a lot of weight really fast. Your energy's high. And also I've been I've trained daily I'm in the gym almost every day. clanging and banging and clanging and banging man. And it's like, I just being at this age, I never expected to be probably in the best physical holding

Unknown Speaker

3838 Okay. Yeah.

Dana Blouin

So like you're hitting you're hitting sessions every day now. Oh, yeah, definitely. I'll go to the haven't been to the gym gym and like yours. I've got weights downstairs. I like it. When I'm in between works. I'll do I'll bang out sets of like 20 curls. Okay,

Mike Somerville

yeah. You said you do like 100 fucking push ups a day. Jesus. I love the gym.

Dana Blouin

And then I'll do I swing my kettlebell. So I try to get in like 100 kettlebell swings every night just the swings,

Unknown Speaker

the women. I have an attraction to physical women. Muscle factory is full of the baddest country. Yeah, like, I've hooked up with like four of them, bro. Right? You gotta be in shape. I was gonna know how they were you don't have a choice? Because you feel like a piece of shit. If you don't

Dana Blouin

like these girls get these CrossFit chicks like trying to run obstacle courses on your deck row. It's amazing,

Unknown Speaker

like 3% body fat, and like you've seen a lot You see? Yeah,

Unknown Speaker

I'm actually I'm actually nervous to approach him like I'm friends with them. I'll take pictures of them like I don't even know how to approach girls. I was gonna ask you better shape than me.

Unknown Speaker

They have no yeah, low self esteem surprisingly, a lot A lot of

Unknown Speaker

you have a pretty smile till you ever pretty smile.

Mike Somerville

Cuz you mentioned that's one of the reasons why take Viagra right because of the stress. That's what I that's the first time I ever took it was that reason I was way too stressed from work and I go in and I'm like in my 30s something like that. I say Doc, I'm like dude, what the fuck? And of course I've heard this, you know, the commercials and all that, but I'm just like, what's going on? He's like, well, How's work? I'm like, Well, I mean, it's pretty much I do that. He's like, well you have days off I'm like now but I'm on call 24 seven so like everything's good blah blah blah blah blah. He's like Dude, you got way too much fucking stress

Dana Blouin

is it go do some cocaine and exactly

Mike Somerville

it's like you need to melt you need to level

Dana Blouin

so you ever pick up a chick fil a Jimmy like Hey, welcome back to my place to some estrogen blockers and takes aggro and fuck I got the TRT

Unknown Speaker

protein shakes girl.

Mike Somerville

But does that mean you Right now you're doing less right. It sounds like you're under less scrutiny because of the censorship, unfortunately. But I mean, are you less stressed now? And you're like,

Unknown Speaker

I have less stress but to summarize my sex life and the psychology of it also, it's like I came to the buffet here. Like the best buffet in the world. Yeah. And already within a few days of, of being here, I ate as much as I could. I was full they're glowing. I'm looking at all this food like sitting still in the buffet. Like I don't want to leave the buffet. And I want to eat more but like I'm full Yeah. And so it's so much more than I can eat. And I also I kind of feel inadequate like I talked to my some of my friends and they can bang like many times per day and with the same girl and for me, it's like I it's so complicated like I need novelty I need the girl to worship me I need to feel relaxed it's like I'm so I mean it but

Dana Blouin

crackers is pulleys involved. Quite a bit of lubricate. brisby

Unknown Speaker

but Tony is a fucking sex ninja. The whole time we were hanging out over the weekend. He just disappeared. I was sitting there talking to a chick

Unknown Speaker

out smiling.

Unknown Speaker

Sure, I probably had sex with six girls in those two days. Okay, birthday. Yeah, birthday weekend bash. But it's almost like I'm forcing myself to like, even hard all the way. Like, this is my weekend, my birthday, I got to do it. But I'm like, I'm kind of forcing it at the same voice to throw a coin slot.

Dana Blouin

Dog down a hallway.

Unknown Speaker

So this is another area of personal self improvement I want to work on I want to improve the quality of the sexual interactions I gotta have. Sorry about that. I want to I want to get harder. I want to be able to not go longer, I can go a long time I want to go harder. I want to be able to control when I come in, you know, sometime come faster. I want to be able to be satisfied with less you know, like my growth poor girlfriend rose or any girlfriend I've had for a long time. If I sleep with them too many days in a row. I get bored so fast. I have to bury my head in the pillow while I'm having sex lemon. Just try to imagine a different girl. Right? I just,

Unknown Speaker

that's exhausting. We have to talk about that we have to discuss getting bored. Like with somebody who you do care about you do legit, right? I mean, like,

Dana Blouin

I was like, Yo, man eating this for five days. Yeah, right? Well, I can say I want that 1.8 every meal for like four years just on time. So like,

Mike Somerville

in year five, you're like, I gotta bury my head in the pillow.

Dana Blouin

I don't I don't have these issues. I don't have these issues. So you gotta get some other food. Like, for me, like, I'm very much comfortable with routine, right? And like, like in certain things and like, especially with my relationship. I don't have that issue. Yeah,

Unknown Speaker

right. It's not even an issue. It's just a desire. Yes. Not bad.

Dana Blouin

But my desires are different, I guess, because I don't have that affliction.

Unknown Speaker

But I have had girls who knew that that's how men were. And they were able to give me the variety they give. They were able to let me chase them just a little bit. So I don't want to cheat. I want the girl to chase me. But I want to chase her like 5% Yeah, my problem I have with rose right now she chases me. 100% This is she doesn't leave anything for me to chase her. She forces me to have sex with her constant all our listeners refer to her as a quality

Mike Somerville

problem.

Dana Blouin

Yeah. First of all

Unknown Speaker

problem if I would if I would have told myself at age 18 I'll be with a woman that wants to have sex with me all day, I was gonna force me to have sex. For

Dana Blouin

those who haven't Instagram. I have a feeling you're about to get a lot more fall.

Unknown Speaker

But what happens is now I don't get any of that dopamine rush. I don't getting that reward. It's not a reward. To me. It feels like work. I feel like I'm being forced. It's honestly something close to a woman feeling of getting raped every day by a woman by a man she's with just for money. Got it?

Unknown Speaker

Made it Patti. It's it's like I was down there with two other brothers from Georgia. And we're all just hanging out. And not only are we middle class, man, we have money. But we're also black men. So every woman who's ever wanted to fuck a black guy. It's like four of us. It comes Yeah, right. So novelty novelty. Yeah. So we're there and we're all like,

Dana Blouin

I'm not seeing the problem. I'm having a hard time connecting you have a new shoe polish. I'm about ready to rubber that shit. Now what bar

Unknown Speaker

was this?

Dana Blouin

You'll never be able to go back to us.

Unknown Speaker

Georgia, Georgia, but it was like you get to you get to that point where you want to use your game that you spent 25 years now it's so easy as I man this is it's not even fun anymore. Because you don't have to use it. You don't have to try. You're just thrown at you at that point. It was like but then

Mike Somerville

Can't you pick and choose you're like this is fantastic. I'm dating eights and nines.

Dana Blouin

Seven is the favorite a girl who would be like a four in Thailand is like an

Unknown Speaker

Oh yeah, I really

Mike Somerville

empathize for overweight white women here. Oh, I'm not joking. I'm serious. You see, and there's like cuz there's no way even a tie. Guy, even with the novelty

Dana Blouin

in Chico you thought was like a 10 in the US like, Oh,

Unknown Speaker

she's fat. She's like six, maybe?

Mike Somerville

best best 10 years older than they really are is here you look 10 to 15 years young. Yeah,

Dana Blouin

right. Like she's like I'm old era false. Oh shit. So there's like it's it is a the quality and quantity of quality. Yeah, same here.

Mike Somerville

Absolutely. And that not just in frakkin potty I mean you can cruise over to like Chile you can be walking down silone Road over in lumpini Park on the BT I was

Unknown Speaker

at Sing Sing last night which was a winner.

Mike Somerville

I've heard that's a great club. That's fucking the best club in Bangkok. It's up there.

Dana Blouin

Don't wear shorts, sister.

Mike Somerville

Get a dress up. Yeah, unless you're

Dana Blouin

unless you're Eric, we wrote songs in a show.

Mike Somerville

Like you're the black guy for potty. Oh, my girlfriend's Fuck you.

Unknown Speaker

We got we got to sing Sing last night and I happen to know the DJ night. We're all friends. Yeah, so that's our first Yeah, no. Yeah, I forget about it. But then you look and was like, yo, it's like fucking 20 to one ratio. And not 20 to one average. 20 new one models and dime pieces here. Man women and men and women and men like women. 21 there's

Mike Somerville

no club in the United States that has that

Unknown Speaker

many girls. Oh, that's almost every club here now. Yeah, there's almost every club in manga

Dana Blouin

fuck to like, can't like walk into the mall. Right? Like, yes, I agree. Average mall is like, Fuck yes.

Unknown Speaker

Yeah. Wow. Is there a cover? No cover for men or women? minimum? Why would there be a cover?

Dana Blouin

It's a club in Thailand.

Mike Somerville

There's no I don't I'm not I've never been regularly

Unknown Speaker

and these aren't. These aren't working. I was talking to Tony about this. Like, I want to take them to places that me and my friends go where you find girls who are in the game out? Yeah, right. They are lawyer real estate developers, whatever you want to ask what's syncing? It's, it's like really? Sure. Oh, Pong. Yeah, professional, professional. But also, these are the wealth High Society of time. Okay, these are my dad's a German businessman. And my mom is what my mom thought, right? Yeah,

Dana Blouin

my mom's like 15,000 to the king.

Unknown Speaker

So now I'm 22 and I'm a model

Unknown Speaker

and I've just beautiful fair skin

Mike Somerville

and they used to stand there they like walk up to you. Oh, no,

Unknown Speaker

they'll hit on you quickly. They they type Bangkok? I specifically talk about Bangkok because this is my home. Yep. The Bangkok nightlife scene is cater it's only cater to man because there's so many women that they have no problem with approaching

Mike Somerville

That's fantastic. hourly normal that helps you with his ego man. I mean if you're if you're talking about a little bit I mean to your buddies right there listening it's like Dude, don't fuck you know going to like soy cowboy or whatever. Yeah, just go to a club with yourself a nice jacket, some slacks whatever. Good good shirt.

Unknown Speaker

Amazing. Being a middle class man here is like being a hot chick back home.

Mike Somerville

Wow, you got that you're you're in charge.

Unknown Speaker

Yes, that's it. We that we are the paradigm shift is and which is why why women hate to hear

Mike Somerville

Add to that the fact that you know, I would submit I don't know you that well, but you probably nice guy. I'm okay. Right. You know, I'm saying but it's like if you're not asked. Fucking douchebag Yeah, exactly. And then they're like, so

Dana Blouin

yeah, you really don't know now.

Mike Somerville

He thinks he knows where the best page. Turns out. He's gonna take the same thing. He's gonna be like, Oh, 20 men, two women. My good luck. motherfuck

Dana Blouin

It is a paradigm shift and it is theirs. It's great. But at the same token, I know so many married couples who have come here. And the wife goes back. Yep, that's it. Yeah. Yeah. How it is?

Mike Somerville

Well, after my first trip, I went back home totally jettisoned that girlfriend. Yeah, she was no of no use to me. And she was very attractive, you know, really liked me and that sort of thing. But she was she wasn't Thai. And there was just something about him and one of the yellow fever you know, whatever you mean. There's no inoculation for

Dana Blouin

Yeah, you just gotta take medicine daily gotta survive survive babies by some by penrhiw your time. date you twist my arm. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker

Ah, what do

Mike Somerville

you think more topics? I mean, Lady boys are not something we've really over talked about.

Dana Blouin

Three hours in so I think let's dial it back. Let's close it up. But I'd love to have you come back. Tony, if you're always welcome. Yeah. Is there

Mike Somerville

anything you want me to talk about

Dana Blouin

that we may not cover? Anything that you want to get to?

Unknown Speaker

Trump 2020.

Unknown Speaker

Trump guy I am Yeah.

Mike Somerville

for what reasons like what makes him

Unknown Speaker

well, better leader? Well, number one, it's a two party system. You get to have to choose one or the other. I get it. You know, by not voting. You're that's that's not doesn't even count. So you've got to choose between the Democratic Party and or Biden or or Trump. Now I like Trump because he's the first politician I've ever seen that took on Big Pharma which is, I think one of the most corrupt monopolies in the entire world. Now big tech being one of the most corrupt monopolies in the world. And he's also going to take on big, big tech, with the antitrust hearings that are happening right now. Because big tech can control the flow of information. Yeah, and censorship of the monetarily against censorship. So those are the two those are two battles that a democrat would never have taken on actually a Republican, it's not Democrat or Republican. We have a politician for the first time. Who is not a politician. Baron is just a businessman.

Unknown Speaker

He's a fucking asshole, man.

Unknown Speaker

A lot of people, a lot of people think he's an ass. I

Unknown Speaker

said, you could, you could support Trump, but I don't know how anybody could say he's not a fucking asshole. I I'm okay with

Unknown Speaker

people. When I said he's a real, he's a real man. I mean,

Dana Blouin

I just says, he's a real human. He's a human. He's a

Unknown Speaker

though this guy. here's, here's my issue. I can fully support somebody who supports the policies of Donald Trump, you know, like America furs, like going after these different individual, I get that, right. But I don't get his people supporting him as a person as a human being. And my question will always be would you trust this person? What's your family? Like? Would you say, hey, I want this guy to take care of my grandmother, or does gotta take care of okay, but

Mike Somerville

again, that's not his role. His role is to whip his dick out in the world and say, America is fucking awesome.

Unknown Speaker

But, but but that's also his role. His his role is also to do what is best for the United States of America. Not what's best for Donald Trump,

Dana Blouin

I get it. I don't think he's doing that he

Mike Somerville

does have a hard time separating the two. I guess

Unknown Speaker

one way he feels best

Dana Blouin

is for him. Here's my issue. So I think he's gonna win, right? I'm not I don't support Donald Trump. I'm incredibly. I'm so liberal that Bernie Sanders feels a bit conservative to me. So, you know, just to throw it out there. That's how that's how I feel. I'm not a fan of Joe Biden either, though, again, not a fan of Kamala Harris is his VP. Um, I think Joe Biden has mental deficiencies that would, that should exclude him from being president. Personally. I'm just I'm not a fan of the policies of Donald Trump. And the The problem is, like he said, He's not a politician. That's clearly apparent. However, when he does play the game politically, the hypocrisy is just horrible. We've got a president who cheated on what's probably his escort wife with a porn star. And then they're not but I'm gonna try to get to the hypocrisy part. I don't care about his wife. Yeah, having been an escort or that he fuck porn stars. But then he he's clearly not a religious guy, but he panders to that base like he goes in front of the church and holds the Bible upside down. right he talked liar. He He's a hypocrite in that regard. Right and my I have a lot of issues with religion in America in general faith, the idea of faith in America. Yeah, but that but but you know, don't be a hypocrite about it like either own like, in like, only grabbing by the pussy. I like to fuck porn stars. Tommy Dale's got some huge tits. I loved it. And yeah, of course, my wife was a model and she was an escort because she's a European model. And that's what European models do. For what? She's fucking hot. I can't argue with that. But at the same time, I just the hypocrisy part about it all. And I don't think he's a good leader. I think his record is a businessman displays that. And I have issues all around. But he's, I don't find him charismatic. But he clearly appeals to people in a lot of ways. The in,

Unknown Speaker

he appeals to contrarians it's a Yeah, that's what I think. And Tony, I think you're a contrarian. And this is why I say I see very much so I say I I know Tony and I know Anthony. That's why I feel like Tony huge as a character because you'll say some enlightening shit. And even your tone changes we go into the shit that you know, as controversial, as I hope that's the tone huge vote, but

Mike Somerville

I'm thinking a contrarian as someone who just wants to be the other way just for the sake of being the other way.

Dana Blouin

Yes, I also can't see a poly you know, chemical expert ladyboy lover who being a Republican. Yeah, like, like socially, right? Yeah,

Unknown Speaker

exactly. That's why I was so surprised.

Dana Blouin

Like, tell any republican senator, that I love fucking lady boys who I'm not I'm not gonna tell him republican senator from Kansas. I'm not gay, but I'll fuck a lady boy all day. Okay, yeah. Yeah. But publicly, they'd be like, Tony huge is going to hell.

Unknown Speaker

Oh my god. So I was raised by a very republican family and my father was assistant to Ronald Reagan. Why and and my my family even moved to Sacramento, so that my father could so that my grandfather could help get a republican elected didn't get elected. And then anyways, it just really intertwined with Republican politics. My father was the for Northern California was the president of the young Republicans, whatever Association, all these type of things. So that's how I was raised and raised very conservatively. And I don't I didn't like the community of super conservative people. I didn't like feeling judged all the time, by every little thing. So yeah, I don't like the pretentiousness, I guess of the high class Republicans and

Dana Blouin

the highfalutin,

Unknown Speaker

highfalutin, so I you know, for the I love that side, like socially, yes, liberal. But for me, what it comes down to is I think governments are one of the most corrupt. I just think we need as little government as possible. I had a lot as a lawyer, I got to know government really well, as a in being in real estate and property management. I dealt with government a lot in that. And I just see how horrible big government is, we just need less government. I don't really care whether it's live as a liberal concert or whatever, we just just less government is better period. And, you know, libertarian, increasing taxes means it's building a bigger government, and you can never slow that down. It just gets bigger and bigger.

Dana Blouin

You're worried about this perpetual growth of government, and it just does not happen. Yeah. So my issue, my issue I, I don't necessarily disagree with the libertarian concept of restrained government. But as someone who again, very progressive, very liberal by, like I said, to me Bernie's almost a tad too conservative. I think that a large, a large base of government services creates an opportunity for risk from the population. So if you don't have to worry about health care, right, you don't have to worry about retirement. Right, you're willing to a certain extent, like housing can be covered whatever you're willing to take risk, which can drive economic growth on at scale, right? Not everyone's gonna be a Zuckerberg. But for every one Zuckerberg there's 10,000 Joe's who are out there, running a small auto repair shop, right how to have a small design studio on the first floor, who do a podcast to do whatever. And so I to me, personally, I I look at that model is ideal. Is it naive to think that that wouldn't come with all this other overhead and bullshit that? Yes, but if you're paying taxes, and you're getting a return, right, it's the same thing. Like, I never when I lived in the US, I never minded to pay high city tax or high town tax where I lived. As long as schools schools were good. The trash gets picked up. The roads are gonna you know, in Ohio. Oh, I lived in I lived in Broadview heights. Yeah, we had good roads, good trash pickup and excellent school.

Unknown Speaker

Ohio democrats did a republican

Dana Blouin

republican state, but a Cuyahoga County where I lived as a the population center. And it's also democratic. But it's it's Midwest

Unknown Speaker

live. California's democrat state. Yeah, run but horribly, but

Dana Blouin

mostly republican towns. So once you get so I lived in California for a while. Not obviously not as long as you but when you're when you're basically west of anything that can see the water in north of San Francisco. It's fairly Republican. Right. It's just that the majority of the population live in the density of Denver, conservative

Unknown Speaker

Republican cities and municipalities run well, the democrat ones don't

Dana Blouin

so in simple. Ohio is a state republican run. I don't think, Eric, you live there like your whole life. Well, not your whole life up until 1819. Was there ever a democratic governor?

Unknown Speaker

No matter? No. Democratic mayor

Dana Blouin

in Cleveland, yeah.

Unknown Speaker

And so governor of Wonder Vich was Republican.

Dana Blouin

I think a Republican mayor of my town was a was nonpartisan, Massachusetts,

Mike Somerville

very democratic. Yeah, I think Kennedy's a royalty,

Unknown Speaker

but I think you know, when you're having this conversation, which involves Trump, he's not a Republican, Democrat. We can definitely spend we can definitely have a conversation.

Unknown Speaker

I agree. He's not he's he had to run as one of the parties.

Dana Blouin

something completely different than we've ever seen. You bring up a great point that we do have a two party system. We're kind of fucked into that. Yeah, he didn't win the popular vote. Totally. He won the electoral college. And so this one things I argue this and Jim gets mad because she knows I hate Trump, but like he played the game he won.

Unknown Speaker

Absolutely. You can't argue by every metric.

Dana Blouin

If you if you win a winner if you win by the rules. You didn't cheat you

Unknown Speaker

He is successful in every way that Americans consider to be a measurement. Success.

Dana Blouin

Well, I so if you break down his finances, he's still rich. He's still rich. You've seen that, like, had he invested in like an index fund? He would have made like three times more money

Mike Somerville

than that. Yeah. But he's not he's entrepreneurial is very risk tolerant. It's

Unknown Speaker

a What about ism. It's like, here's the reality. He's the president united states, which is what people say totally powerful. It's one individual in the world. He's rich, he's white, and he's wildly off. He's gonna leave office either this year. Well, next year is probably gonna win. And yeah, for five years, right, and he's still not gonna

Dana Blouin

overpay to have him as a speaker. I would say 80% chance he wins this election.

Unknown Speaker

You know, a close a close friend of Donald Trump is a friend of a friend. So I got some nothing nothing secret super secret, but some insider perspective on who he is as a person. And he is someone who nobody else can tell him to do anything. In fact, you tell him to do one thing he'll want to do something else because he wants to have nobody else influencing him. And it was funny because this friend said that's that was dangerous. I can hundred percent let's see that. Like politics you have to cater to so yeah, he's like, nobody owns Him be the first politician that doesn't cater to special interests other than to play his game of winning button but not in the interest of

Unknown Speaker

that's pissed off for all the republicans he says everybody Yeah, biggest donors like Oh, fuck,

Unknown Speaker

but this I mean, when we say is not a good leader, I'd say this is to have someone who's being opposed from every angle attacked from every angle, the entire mainstream media, the world media against him, in his opinion, to still be winning. There's something we can all learn from, but he

Unknown Speaker

hasn't won anything since he got elected. So his he won.

Dana Blouin

So well. So here's my theory. I

Unknown Speaker

mean, I guess I'm saying he hasn't his approval rating is at an all time low. Like he's polling behind Biden now. Yeah, but he'll win for sure.

Dana Blouin

Did you don't know. Are you are you gonna vote for a woman who has I am

Unknown Speaker

100% voting for Biden and Kamala Harris.

Dana Blouin

Yeah. How do you feel about Kamala Harris's speech shit? Yeah,

Unknown Speaker

I can't sit her I hate her.

Dana Blouin

But so I'm gonna vote for Biden as well. Right. And Kamala Harris because I can't stand because I won't not vote. And I won't vote for Trump. I can't vote for Trump. But at the same time, I hate Biden and I hate Kamala Harris. I don't

Unknown Speaker

hate Biden. I just, I can't stand the same reasons that

Unknown Speaker

I think he's got my PC now.

Dana Blouin

I think Yeah, he said, but he's also he's also passing. He's proposed. He was the lead senator on really horrible policies, especially against the black community. Yes. So like,

Unknown Speaker

my thing my thing as Kamala Harris is a black woman she fucking hate bro. She built a career off the bodies of black and brown men.

Mike Somerville

Yeah, you're in prison is voting against whatever it is against Trump, not Trump.

Unknown Speaker

I believe that Trump is significantly more dangerous because his reach is global. So I think he does the conflicts that he puts us in globally Yeah. could destroy our fucking species. Here's

Dana Blouin

my fast my issue with November he gets reelected within two years. We're at war with China.

Unknown Speaker

I wouldn't be shocked hot war with

Unknown Speaker

Trump goes to war with China he'll win. That's the thing

Unknown Speaker

you don't go he's

Dana Blouin

not gonna win. Oh, it was a war with China. I don't know. America wins a war which I know Sure. No, we China's army might be bigger but no one spends more millet. America's top

Unknown Speaker

top 20 The United States is number one. The next 20 countries don't spend as much as you

Dana Blouin

here's the other thing right it's not like we have a Clinton our army either where like we haven't been to war in 20 years. Yeah, we've been good at it one two years. We run it like a business right? We've got twice as many aircraft carriers summary, but I don't. I don't think it's gonna be you know, we're in the Air Force. No, it will be a financial No, it will be a hot war. It's gonna be nukes. I well. Here's the thing. If you're China, right you can't beat the US militarily you have people but you don't have the the skill you don't have the force. You don't have the machinery. But you do have nuclear weapons. Yeah, so what's your only option? nukes? Your backs against the wall? It's gonna be nukes. And that's

Unknown Speaker

what I'm saying. A war with China or Russia? Is not world war two is that Vietnam is not a rectory. We started out, though. It's the decimation of our fucking species. Another war. We're too powerful now,

Mike Somerville

so they got to a point. That's why I don't believe they'll use nukes.

Unknown Speaker

We got it got we have gotten to a point where Donald Trump is fucking crazy.

Mike Somerville

Okay, sure. But like, he's not the only one that makes this decision. But thank God now he's got the Joint Chiefs.

Unknown Speaker

If Donald if Donald Trump wanted to push a button he could he has that power.

Dana Blouin

Yeah, he is. He is the one who makes that decision. He's the one choice from a war perspective. We're lucky that we have the Joint Chiefs because they've obviously already showed that they can wrangle a man. Yeah, well, they'll at least they'll push back because they did. deploy troops, domestic leader in the BLM, and George Floyd protests.

Unknown Speaker

And that's a civil war if they would have deployed. Yes. That is

Dana Blouin

states that is a civil and then China's like,

Unknown Speaker

Yeah, and that's my issue. There's all these countries are sitting back, watching us terrorists watching us to ourselves apart.

Unknown Speaker

I don't think they're just sitting back I think. Oh, yeah.

Mike Somerville

As is Thailand, as is Vietnam as a segue.

Unknown Speaker

I agree. I agree. It's shadow wars. Yes. Shadow wars. Absolutely. 100% I agree with that. And it was like you it's easy with Trump. It makes it easy.

Dana Blouin

You're a Texan right? Well, you call Texas home well call yourself a Texas Tech. So they close with the El Paso

Unknown Speaker

consulate. I heard about Yeah.

Dana Blouin

Houston, Houston, Kansas. He was close the Houston conflict. Yeah, did you see that they went out so they can't enter even after they revoke the list status or conflict they wouldn't enter China's out their fucking burning shame or dumpster see

Unknown Speaker

him from a high rise? Yeah.

Dana Blouin

The Chinese they've got a dumpster that's on fire. Throwing paperwork is

Mike Somerville

just getting ready to leave.

Dana Blouin

Yes. smashing hard drives with hammers. Yeah, they've

Mike Somerville

evacuated like like we evacuated Saigon. So

Dana Blouin

we No no. So what happened was Yeah, we we rejected their their status as a consular counselors. And if that one and they said they were spying on us out of that. Yeah. Which is, let's be honest. That's what it was for.

Mike Somerville

We all left the Embassy in Washington DC that they're like, we don't care about that. We just want to screw this one. This consulate. Yeah. The embassies. Okay, so

Dana Blouin

then in response, China shut down. One, they rejected our conflict status and one of their cities. Okay, fair enough. Yeah.

Mike Somerville

Sure, sure. Yeah.

Dana Blouin

But I'm telling me like, it's, it's on the to the whole Tick Tock thing, right. I mean, it's, it seems 10 seconds like that. So it seems trivial. But it's a huge economic play.

Mike Somerville

But again, it's not the only It's not the first time this has happened. tick. Tock isn't the first app globally to be able to monitor what you do?

Dana Blouin

No, no, but for the President and the president bad economic it's an economic play is what it is cuz.

Mike Somerville

Okay, but if you look at the example of Huawei, okay, like, banned all that shit. I mean, that's nothing. Yeah, what gives a shit about anymore? That's like old news, right? I mean, cuz

Dana Blouin

Huawei is equipment, right. And so it's still a multi billion dollar.

Unknown Speaker

And it's still in a lot. A lot of times

Mike Somerville

of data centers, it

Dana Blouin

runs Yeah, it runs the I used to work when I did the mobile network at Cox.

Unknown Speaker

It was all built on Huawei. Yeah, cuz it's half the price of Cisco.

Unknown Speaker

Yeah. Less than half the better. Yeah. You know, I I got censored on Tick tock, so I just have to say screw tick.

Dana Blouin

Yeah. So Tony 2020. Here's the thing. Here's the thing, right? Tick tock, though, right. They're their revenue generating through ads. What are the not the most profitable social media users? I think that's Norway, where advertising is like, like per user, you make them your cpms. Insane. Really? Yeah. But the US is like top three toddler. Yeah, right. So for Tick tock, so think about number one for Tick Tock. So think about that economic impact of all of a sudden, and under the, under what Trump are trying to do, Americans can no longer work for bytedance either. Right. So you know how many Americans work for bytedance in the US and China, those jobs go away,

Unknown Speaker

we're becoming more. My biggest, biggest thing, aside from him being crazy, is that we're becoming more of an isolationist country and what we do, we part of our life is travel. What we enjoy doing is exploring the world interacting with different people from around the world. He's taken that's being taken away.

Mike Somerville

That's what we do even see in this room. Yeah, but mostly, most Americans don't even have a passport. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker

And that's part of the issue. That's part of the problem.

Mike Somerville

And that was that was the case long

Unknown Speaker

before Trump but but what I'm saying is, if you look at it, a lot of the things that we enjoy as Americans is because we were so open, we're so global, if you if you if you take away like that, I call it you can think it's it's fucking a hoax or whatever. But the lack of a government response has resulted in us being banned from a lot of countries around the world. You can call it a hoax or fake reality. But the reality is the government's response has forced it to a point where me you We can't leave when Thailand opens its borders. We'll be able to leave and we won't be able to come back because of what our government is doing. hoax or no fucking hoax. Yeah. Right. So

Unknown Speaker

why I say if the government did nothing, the corona would have been over by now. Yeah, awesome. Is government the math,

Dana Blouin

the math doesn't support that. Right. So there's no song about math earlier. Right. And like optimization routing, this whole this, this scale, free network model, right. So contacts equal, you know, more connections, more spread. That's how you track a virus. And that's how you contain it. That's the whole thing I was talking to, like, look at the adult entertainment industry not not that I've ever watched porn. Yeah, right, one second. give it an hour. There's I'm just gonna make sure my downloads are on. They still happen. Yeah, so my point is downloading. No. So like when an HIV HIV positive case happens in important, right, what do they do they locked down everyone who had contact for levels back with that performer Yep, since the date of their, their previous five contacts before their positive positive test,

Unknown Speaker

and I agree for that for HIV.

Dana Blouin

So but HIV is it still requires a high level of contact and fluid transmission for contagion. We know that flu like viruses which COVID-19 is right it's a novel coronavirus, discovered 2019 very similar in in mechanism to the flu can be transmitted asymptomatically. Without contact. We know that for a fact. So if you don't cause restriction and movement, restriction and contact you are not preventing the spread. If you look at the states that did not have the lockdowns, they have some of the worst spikes in cases Florida is one of them. They were reporting 50,000 new cases a day. Now you can think it's a hoax or the government should have done nothing but math does not support that.

Unknown Speaker

So with HIV this is this is that's great. Because it it's if you catch it, your body's not immune systems aren't able to defeat it. Yeah, but in this situation, the immune system works fine against Corona.

Dana Blouin

No, but we know that there are certain reasons why not all catch it there is higher risk factors. So the type of blood you have actually determines your vulnerability to to COVID-19 what blood type

Unknown Speaker

what blood type blood type makes us most susceptible.

Dana Blouin

Okay, so it so when I first heard this rose,

Unknown Speaker

what blood type? Are you? blood type? Are you? Oh, I'm also say she had Corona.

Dana Blouin

So you're both the morona I'm immune to Corona. So you're the you're immune.

Unknown Speaker

I mean, I've been subjected to it and I cannot have it. So

Dana Blouin

yeah, you had so you are you had it and you never develop symptoms. She had it for how long? Do you have Corona?

Mike Somerville

Today, and you just felt like you had the flu?

Dana Blouin

So old blood is does the best against Corona. amo also, um, oh, pause. I want his own egg. Um, so it has to do with negative. So when I say a negative so so you're a you're the most susceptible.

Mike Somerville

A and A negative are a little different. No,

Dana Blouin

no, it's just a protein structure.

Mike Somerville

So like everyone, okay,

Dana Blouin

yeah. So. So there's certain receptors in the blood. And I actually when I first heard this, it sounded like bullshit sounds like Whoo. Right? Like when you like your blood? I

Unknown Speaker

believe in this. It's called glyco nutrient? Yes,

Dana Blouin

I believe so hundred percent. And so what happens is the way your blood reacts to certain viruses, a way of bonds is depending on the type. And so people with a blood are the most susceptible, and the virus will replicate the fastest. And they'll have the worst response. Now, it's not always the case. But they know that people with Oh have the highest resistance to the virus and people with a have the least. And then there are other factors, like people who have certain age. Yeah. But it's not just their age is their age with their respiratory health. People who smoke have higher, more issues, when it first started to outbreak and obviously our knowledge is increased like science does. We know more today than we did yesterday. We'll know more tomorrow than we did today. So we know that originally, we thought it caused pneumonia like symptoms, right? And that people would their lungs would flood they have problem breathing. And then there were other doctors reporting. It actually looks more like altitude sickness. So like there's a lack of oxygen. Okay. So they're still trying to figure that out. They're doing large scale studies. The problem is that you're focused so much on triage. Yeah, right. Right, that, that observation, you don't have the opportunity to observe

Mike Somerville

and protect them from dads like the ER versus going to see your doctor.

Dana Blouin

Exactly. Yeah. And so there's so much that we're still figuring out from but we do know that it has a higher mortality rate than the flu. And we know that treatment is still unsure for a lot of it,

Mike Somerville

how much higher mortality rates and so it nificant or instant,

Dana Blouin

it depends on population. So if you look at one of the things that we saw in New York, which was you know, they had overall fairly good but if you were black, you did really poorly and they can't figure out you know, their immune system I'd never heard so it's part of the immune but then there's also they think there's some other issues and genetically

Unknown Speaker

genetic what they said, but also a population density within our community.

Mike Somerville

Because the sharing exactly what about a blood is that more common?

Dana Blouin

So there's also the there's other socio socio economic issues, like I said, density and stuff like that. Yeah, you can't be away from work.

Mike Somerville

Yeah. Okay. Got it.

Dana Blouin

But But they were seeing the higher rates, the higher mortality rates in black communities across social economic bounds. So there's things that we clearly don't understand and obviously no one understands all of it. Yeah, right. Right. So I just I think it's it's it's irresponsible to say that if the government did nothing that it would be done because math doesn't support that we look at Thailand with our high level of contact tracing the high the high high acceptance of wearing a mask yeah from right for in a mask isn't to protect you is to protect everyone else it's a control you it's a self containment right. So even if you're asymptomatic, right you're still containing in in you're not people on contain catching it. Right in the US are people saying that, you know, God gave me these Long's right, I can't restrict it with the mask and all.

Mike Somerville

I've seen the thing in the Philippines where they're like, if you're sick, wear it with blue on the outside, if you're not sick, then wear it with the white on the outside. So you can tell between people writing, I'm protecting others.

Dana Blouin

So you've only been here six months only really since seven months only since really the lockdown, or since COVID. At least was a scare. I've been here eight years are explained here. Six. You've been here one, right? Well, yeah. But

Mike Somerville

traveling back and forth significantly. So

Dana Blouin

wearing a mask is actually part of culture. Oh, yeah. Right. Like I had a client, I would go to their office if someone didn't feel good. Their whole team wore a mask in case that they had with the other person had public trust. Public transportation. You see, it's not uncommon to see people wearing masks. So it's part of culture. And I think that's why you see country, Asian countries had such a better response, macro wise to this and they handled it better than the US were wearing a mask isn't part of the culture. Right? People feel weird about it. One of my friends lives in Nevada. He's Mexican American guy. He's like, going into a bank with the mask. Yeah, right. He's like, he's like, if I did this, six months ago, I would have got shot.

Mike Somerville

Right? He's like, now it's normal. But to his point, it's not necessarily the government. I mean, yes, the Thai government did say, look, you got to close your shop, you can't go to work, that sort of thing. But when they were like, Hey, you got to wear masks? I would submit most ties were like, well, right. Yeah, that's what we do. Like I have ones with Hello Kitty. Oh, my. Yeah, my

Dana Blouin

pin, right. It's a culture issue. Here's the thing like i'm not i'm not a fan of probably right, for the most part. But you have to you have to admire the way that he handled this situation. His minister of a health of health was a douchebag, who didn't know anything about medicines, like your out homie. medical team is in head of the COVID Task Force and leadership. This is who we listened to. And I think Trump handled it the opposite, handily put Mike Pence in charge of COVID response, Mike Pence was as governor had two major outbreaks of HIV and hepatitis in his state, right, which are diseases we know how to contain. And so so maybe

Mike Somerville

what you're saying not necessarily like we should have had less government, we just seen it. We just simply needed more competent leaders. Yes. Whether it's government or the who, or whatever. And unfortunately, we had more incompetent leaders in the United States than we had in competent leaders in Thailand. How

Unknown Speaker

about that? But what's the goal? Are we trying to prevent anybody? I mean, you're never gonna completely eliminate? Well,

Mike Somerville

you and I agree on that. But then they say, well, one death is too many. Oh, Jesus Christ, they don't sell cars, right?

Unknown Speaker

This is always what I tell people who have this argument about always my freedom and my rights. I'm like, shut the fuck up. Let's gather, you literally, you have decided that losing, say 1% of this, these people catch a disease. It's okay. And I'm saying, okay, say that, but don't pretend it's about some Yeah. Right. That's the, that's what we as a species decide, Yo, 1% of us gotta go.

Mike Somerville

Are you saying that Tony, and I'm thinking right, you know,

Unknown Speaker

but you're just delaying the inevitable, you're not always gonna get it somehow going to get exposed, we're

Dana Blouin

all gonna die exposure, though, when you have if we're able to get to the point where we have a vaccine, or able to get to a point where we have a treatment that can actually reduce the mortality significantly, is worth it if you're extending the time till they get exposed. It's like smallpox. Well, I can't even use smallpox, in example, because fucking Portland, in Seattle. Again, because they're not getting vaccinated. Right. But if you have a treatment and a vaccine in place for a virus, you can reduce the mortality mortality rate almost to zero. We see it with malaria, smallpox, for the most part. Yeah. You know, all these diseases, mumps, measles, MMR, yeah. All these things we've essentially eliminated from the vast majority of the world before shit was breaking out in Portland and Seattle. They're the only cases of smallpox we're seeing. We're in like rural communities in Afghanistan and Pakistan now. Yeah, it's never Yeah, right. Right. Yeah. And so like, think about polio, right, like a president had polio before and now no one has polio.

Unknown Speaker

You know, every year people get vaccines for the flu and the virus mutates and they got to get it. Another vaccine the next year. Yeah, you say, Are you do you see a world where the vaccines are? They have to be administered every year for that's what do you see? Do you see it being needing to be mandatory or optional?

Dana Blouin

So, so this is this is tough, right? I think that to me, you should get a vaccine, I have a hard time in my head justifying mandating medical treatment. However, like if you have kids, like, I don't think you should be able to send your kids to school, if they're not bad,

Mike Somerville

a lot of schools won't let you University San Diego wouldn't let you in if you did MMR and

Dana Blouin

so and like I, I, if I own a business, and you're not vaccinated, I'm probably not going to employ you.

Unknown Speaker

And that seems like it should be the option of the business owner that anything drug tested. I agree with that.

Dana Blouin

So I have a hard time to say that a government should mandate vaccines. However, at the same time, the government should educate people enough to know that vaccines are safe, you know, in that it will protect you from these diseases. I

Mike Somerville

don't think the government has an issue with that. I think the receivers of the education there's plenty of data out there to be educated. I think the government no one is willing to this.

Dana Blouin

I think the government does a poor job in communicating.

Unknown Speaker

That's what I was about to say. But government does a terrible fucking job at teaching people

Dana Blouin

When's the last time you saw education about communication about the flu vaccine from the government

Mike Somerville

get it from the government? Well,

Unknown Speaker

I don't think vaccines are safe. So this is the fundament 100%. Why don't

Dana Blouin

you think vaccines are safe

Unknown Speaker

because of the censorship that it's around it? We can't even explore them scientifically without getting censored. That's

Dana Blouin

not true. There's there's tons of research published on vaccines and the human response to vaccines every day, you find a medical journal with show me a medical journal, it doesn't have at least one or two vaccine studies in it.

Unknown Speaker

This can even be it can be discussed. If you try to start talking about vaccines or like ask you just even ask questions like why is mercury in the vaccine?

Dana Blouin

There is a surgery, there's no mercury in vaccines?

Unknown Speaker

What? Well, then why can't we have an open dialogue about it? You can't

Dana Blouin

You can't. The scientific community has these dialogues all the time.

Unknown Speaker

You can't get any of it to the mainstream. So yes, sure. Is there scientists that believed vaccines are very unsafe, and scientists that believe that they're very safe tried to put as a scientist that believes it's unsafe by mainstream Find

Dana Blouin

me a credible Find me a credible research scientist with evidence that vaccines are unsafe.

Unknown Speaker

We can all right, we'll

Unknown Speaker

come back with it.

Mike Somerville

But there are you can always find a scientist or a doctor that he disagrees you and

Dana Blouin

you would be you would be hard pressed. It's like climate change, right? 90. People say 97% of scientists, you know, support climate change, or the idea that climate change is real. What it really is, is that 97% of public research published research has been peer reviewed, confirms climate change as an activity. Right. So if you could find me a reputable scientists, a reputable research scientists that has peer reviewed, published articles saying that vaccines are completely unsafe, I would be surprised now to say

Unknown Speaker

what about that? What about the people that come forward whose children became autistic almost instantly after the event? That's

Dana Blouin

not that's not research? Right? you're you're you're confusing. Yes. And no, you're confusing. causation and correlation. Right. So we don't know what caused their kids to be autistic. My

Unknown Speaker

argument is, why

Unknown Speaker

are the vaccines paying out? So such big settlements behind the scenes, they're not

Dana Blouin

paying out? So there are there are instances where people have biological damage from vaccines, and there is a fun set up specifically to pay out to that some people have a negative immune response to vaccines that happens. And it's horrible that it does happen, but it's considerably less than 1%. Isn't

Mike Somerville

that the point? I mean? Yeah, you take title, there's a, there's a very, very, very, very, very slight chance that you get to have a stroke. It's

Dana Blouin

like, it's like,

Unknown Speaker

it's the same way to any anything, your supplements,

Unknown Speaker

people who die from peanut allergies. So imagine being forced to take something that has that kind of much higher risk than many other things that we're not allowed to even have.

Dana Blouin

Currently, it doesn't happen. So right now, like I, I would not take a COVID vaccine, like we rushed this, right vaccines take years to develop, right there. There's human trials, and they start out with a very small sample, and then they slowly increase it. So once that's done, they can say, all right, there's this 99.999% you know, positive results from this vaccine. It's safe to administer to the public will because we know that less than like one and 100 million will have a negative response to it. In the US there. Is that fun that pays out. If you've had immune damage as a result of a vaccine. It doesn't pay out to people who say Oh, my kids autistic because he got a vaccine. There's no mercury in vaccines anymore. It hasn't been for decades. That that's misinformation. It just doesn't exist. Asked Any general practitioner about that to see the ingredients? There's no? Well they call it thermacell. They say a 30. Something thermacell is a Mercury based preservative. They don't use that in vaccines. So

Unknown Speaker

I did recently look up the ingredient list on more recent vaccines, and it was really comprehensive. And it is like, why is this in there and why? It's it's like, why don't we discuss why these components of the vaccine are in the

Unknown Speaker

Why do you feel you can't discuss it? Yeah, we're discussing like now. Yeah, you can't?

Unknown Speaker

I mean, if you just made them public in large media. Yeah, there's

Mike Somerville

the censorship.

Unknown Speaker

Yeah, you just cannot discuss what's in vaccines, or whether it's art or anything suggesting that it's harmful.

Unknown Speaker

But it's also do you feel that and let's take it back to bodybuilding? You feel that the waiters white weeders, Joe weider. And they presented a lot of misinformation when it came to bodybuilding in their their their time, right? Yes. And the fitness industry is has been built on misinformation. Yeah. So when you talk about vaccines, and you talk about all these different things in it, people are confused as like, well, this person who's supposed to be the expert, right? Or even Tony huge. Why am I Why would I believe anything that you say about bodybuilder for example? Like why? Like, oh, I'm Tony, huge. I experimented on myself. Here's the proof. Okay. Well, I'm scientists and experimented on this. And here's the proof. Yeah. So if you're going to present or you or anybody else is going to present their findings as to truth. Why is it confusing or surprising or shocking or frustrating that somebody else does the exact same thing, especially when you have say, you know, 97% of people who have no negative reaction, but 3% of people do? And then people just focus on that. 3%? Fuck this 97% over here This.

Mike Somerville

This? I think that's his point is that we the whole Why can't we have a decision? Because potentially, I'm not saying why can't we have publicly? Exactly, yeah, because the the guys with all of the money, then AstraZeneca or whoever it is, right? They're like, hey, CBS. No, you're not running this story of potential truth or potential. Exactly. That's the point. So it's not necessarily to make the statement, I would submit to you that the all vaccines are bad. You're you made kind of a broad brush statement. And I'm just kind of pushing back on it, because I don't think it's necessarily that all vaccines are bad, but the ability to get the correct data that isn't necessarily easy. Obviously, Dana did more research clearly than I did, right. Because he's got like a lot more information on this. And so unfortunately, we want to kind of have that discussion. And we can have it in this room. Yeah. But if I want to, like watch 60 minutes and get the correct thing, and you know, Procter and Gamble's and charges, CBS, well, then I'm fucked. Then I'm gonna get the wrong information. I grew up thinking that steroids were bad, like every single one of them. So I'm a kid and my doctor wants to give me anabolic steroids because I have, I'm like, Oh, no, dude, it's steroids. 12 years old. I fucking know. Because I've been watching Christie Brinkley or whatever. Whoever's been like, on actually Christie Brinkley was. She, she gave me data, actually. But I mean, and that's the real, that's the real and

Unknown Speaker

that's also misinformation. Yeah, the argument goes, if you put something and remember this is you said you love Trump, because he's going after big tech, you know, a pharma, Big Pharma, all these people who are stopping you, it's like, wait a minute, is this information that Tony huge is putting out? Is this accurate? Or is it going to harm people by perpetuating this, these things that are wrong? Because you know, the shit that's, you know, this in the supplement is bullshit. So you're like, no, this is not what it is. So

Dana Blouin

it's they're not

Mike Somerville

saying he can't do it, because he's giving us wrong information. They're lying, making everyone believe that he's giving wrong information because their stock prices go down. They're selling a hell of a lot less obesity medications. What

Unknown Speaker

about censorship? Are you talking about censorship? Or?

Unknown Speaker

Really, it really all comes down to sense? Yeah,

Dana Blouin

so here's my so we'll talk about censorship. And I want to give you kind of like the sneaky version of censorship. with climate change. 97% of research supports that climate change is a real thought.

Unknown Speaker

Do you believe in climate change, Tony? No.

Mike Somerville

Wait, climate change?

Unknown Speaker

global warming? I believe in climate change. You don't believe in global correct? Yeah, that's that's the point. Okay, this change, obviously, things are gonna change. things always have changed.

Dana Blouin

So So yeah, but we know that we can see it right. I

Unknown Speaker

don't believe that cow farts is the cause of the climate change. So

Dana Blouin

cow farts? No, right? If we, if we didn't have cars and jets, and all these things that burn fossil fuel, cow farts wouldn't make a difference. You could you could have a billion cows farting wouldn't make a difference. It's the concentration of those chemicals in the environment due to manmade activities. Right? We're causing it we know that to be fact essentially, as close to fact as we can get based on the information in the research that we have the Problem is the same thing with climate change and with vaccines, the media gives equal weight to both sides of the argument in that that's wrong. Right? If 90% of 790 7% of research shows it one way, and you have a climate change denier and a climate change scientists, given equal time in the media to make a good story. People see it on critically think, well, they must both be valid. The same thing with vaccines, but I don't think they give them both the same amount they often do. Yes. Especially

Unknown Speaker

in a massive structure. Yeah. When you have, if you have, let's say, Fox News, and CNN, for example, right. Like they're they have equal real estate in in screens, people dependent on

Mike Somerville

content, I don't believe I believe it's absolutely biased.

Unknown Speaker

Yeah, they are hundred percent.

Dana Blouin

But it doesn't make it doesn't make for good news with no, no. Oh, yeah. If you have, you know, Dr. Smith, coming up on the news for two minutes and saying, Well, yes, we've recently reviewed this data and we find that there is a correlation between carbon emissions in this region of the world and the the concentration and causing additional global warming over the ice caps with reflective energy and that would no one watch that but if you get him for 30 seconds, and then that's the point asshole Jim to come on about climate change fake Jesus wouldn't Jesus wouldn't in the world. Well, that's

Mike Somerville

the point. They're not getting equal time. And

Dana Blouin

here's in So the same thing with vaccines, you have immunologist come on and talk about there is no mercury in vaccines, we don't do that. That's stupid. We know Mercury is negative. And ever since we found that out, we stopped doing it. We know that the the negative response is less than point 00 3%. We know that, you know, the people who do have immune response, there's something that we have to figure out about it. But the vast, vast majority population on Earth, you know, does doesn't have that response to to vaccines and the ones who do don't get autism. That's just not a thing. It doesn't happen. We know that this is the data, what happens they have the immunologist Come on talk about that. And then they have some soccer mom come on and be like, my babies had the vaccine, and now they're autistic. And I saw it happen right away. And that's all the data they give it. And they give just as much weight. Yeah, as they do to someone who spent 20 years studying science. And we're seeing the same thing happen now with Fauci, Fauci is not a Republican, not a Democrat. He's a scientist, the head sciences for contagious disease in America. Right. And we see now that, you know, he's adjusted his statements ever since COVID. Started based on data that he has, he knows more today than you did yesterday. And he's adjusted his statements. First, he said, We don't need mass, they said, Well, now we know that asymptomatic, transmission does happen mask, reduce that considerably wear a mask, you know, stay inside, we need to, you know, limit our contact with other people because of asymptomatic transmission. So and then we start to, they start to learn what the incubation period was for the disease, they start to learn how people responded to it. And then what we see is the Republican Party, and then a lot of it is the Trump administration wants to fight back against the COVID thing. And because they want economic growth, to see one's good numbers for reelection, you know, and they're starting to try to discredit him now, by putting out information. Well, they issued a document saying all the times he's changed his opinion, a good scientist should change their opinion with new data.

Mike Somerville

Yeah, but the world doesn't believe

Dana Blouin

right, if you

Unknown Speaker

will, is not the US does not

Dana Blouin

enter into this in your in your world, Tony, the first cycle you ever did, was it the perfect cycle?

Unknown Speaker

Well, yeah, I mean, I approached it so cautiously. So for the time, yes.

Dana Blouin

For now, if you were gonna do that, would you do the same cycle now that you did, then based on all the things you've learned in done since then?

Unknown Speaker

I would have jumped in with arms, arms, similar new

Unknown Speaker

information, you got some information.

Dana Blouin

You learn more, you know, more today than you did yesterday. And so you've adjusted your approach based on that science is the same thing.

Mike Somerville

It is, but we're talking about censorship and censorship, I would submit an incorrect data, or basically what is well,

Dana Blouin

I think that this giving equal weight to the two sides, despite one being really, essentially wrong is a form of censorship in a different way, but they don't give equal time. Giving even giving a voice giving to give a voice Yeah, giving voice to the climate denier, climate change deniers giving voice to anti vaxxers is censorship in the fact that it causes people to think that they might be right because they're on they're on network TV,

Mike Somerville

but I think all of us can agree that the you know, CBS, NBC, look, I was in the media for 20 years, okay, we made more money during the tragedy of 911. Then we made the first nine point 11 years prior to for sure. And the goal is to basically get you hooked so that when they run an ad you watch that at the end The news they will portray as being correct data science, that sort of thing I have a trust is I have a trustworthy, older gentleman that's got some gray hair, so I trust him on the camera. So but I mean that then that's the thing. It's censored. It's modified. It's entertainment. It's infinitely less data. In fact, it's entertainment on and that is the majority of the information. Certainly what the United States gets,

Unknown Speaker

well, maybe we should be advocating that people stop getting as much information from your media

Dana Blouin

right as only listen to Bangkok's train. That's like,

Mike Somerville

we should have less people buy McDonald's hamburger. Yeah, Donald's hamburgers tastes fucking awesome.

Dana Blouin

And the only 99 cents? Yes. So we can't $3 tacos. Yeah, he bought up $3 for a taco bell taco. Oh, I did. What did you have it shipped here, bro at Taco Bell. Did anyone ever tell how much are they in the US?

Unknown Speaker

For Oh,

Mike Somerville

they give him away. They're free.

Dana Blouin

So I gotta tell a fucked up story about Taco Bell real quick. I worked at Taco Bell when I was 18. So before I went to universities like that my summer job, really horrible job. Sure. And there's a lot of people who work there who are like on probation or parole bracelets, one of them. And so there's one kid who was selling drugs out of the drive thru from Braintree. He's from North Providence, Rhode Island. So no problems around. He's selling drugs out of the drive of this Taco Bell. You know, I was working the meat scoop station. Sure. Yeah, that stations very scooping meat. And take me he's selling LSD and he comes over he opens up this little piece of fucking bubblegum tin foil is like odd fucking. And he's like, I just bought all this LSD. And the manager comes walking. He fucking dumps it all on the knee. Right? Like, I can mix it in. So no, oh my

Unknown Speaker

god, that's a great solution.

Unknown Speaker

Trying to get it out. So like, the statute of limitations is

Dana Blouin

like 20 hits of acid mixed into like 10 tacos worth of gas pockets

Mike Somerville

ever. Those people are shopping at that

Dana Blouin

store. I'm like, I'm like, I gotta throw this meat away. Right? So I throw the thing I go to pull the meat away the managers like Dang, I need you to go fucking in back and do all the dishes. I'm like, I just gotta toss that meat still fine. Leave it and she dumps a whole other bag of meat into it just mixes it up. Because the meat used to come and like these thermal bags you leave in like subida Yeah, just fucking cut it and dump it in. So I'm like, Ah, so I put the scoop. I walk in the back scrubbing dishes and that

Mike Somerville

began drug dealing day.

Dana Blouin

So you can see the fucking the kids like Oh, he's like, dude, that's like $200 worth of acid. You just lost me. I'm like, that's six dead people. Like you're the one who fucking dumped it. I don't like you got butter fingers. Not my fault, asshole. So I'm in the back Washington edition. They get those screens like this all the old CRT monitors. So you can see all the orders coming in and pop in like these little squares of like, what do you see every orders like five tacos? A tacos? Six taco. Scrubbing pads, like go to fucking jail.

Mike Somerville

go to jail. For people coming back through the line. Like, like, yeah, give me 75 more tacos. fucking amazing. Look at the size of that butterfly.

Dana Blouin

You know? So this was like, it had to be like 1am breaks. I work nights. So all these people are fucking coming back.

Mike Somerville

No, no, no, no, he didn't.

Dana Blouin

Need You shouldn't be

Mike Somerville

they're not autistic because of the goddamn tacos. ls Yeah,

Dana Blouin

so anyway, that's my taco bell store.

Unknown Speaker

Does anybody sleep on LSD? I mean, would you ever take LSD and then go to

Dana Blouin

sleep? Okay, what I've never slept?

Unknown Speaker

No, I'm just curious. Because last time I did mushrooms, I actually felt like, I didn't sleep because Rose was on them also. And I needed to make sure she said, like things she wanted to have sex the whole time. I wanted to think she can fly off the balcony. down. So I stayed awake. But I felt like I could have fallen asleep and had the best sleep ever. I was Oh, relax. I wonder but I never hear anybody take a psychedelic

Dana Blouin

I took I took acid once like midday and I didn't sleep. But you weren't

Mike Somerville

tired? No. So it doesn't didn't make you Well, the

Dana Blouin

next day I crashed hard. So I took it like say like 4pm up all night, up all night next day and I was like 21 so next day, just looking all day like four o'clock I passed out and I woke up the next day like six.

Unknown Speaker

I got a question for you. Before we get get out of here six inches. I got a bus move. Okay, four

Mike Somerville

and a half on a

Dana Blouin

three by three. It's a white one. Okay, it's a micro penis. So,

Unknown Speaker

we talked earlier about how bullshit a lot of supplements are. And you run a supplement company. That's what you do. What's the difference between your supplement and say something I'll get at GNC?

Unknown Speaker

Well, okay, I believe that the the supplement regulations should be less and we should have more personal freedom. There's

Dana Blouin

no such thing. regulations already if you ever see a not certified by the FDA right now, what's that movie a bigger, faster, stronger that he was fucking making bullshit supplements in his living room with like three migrant workers.

Unknown Speaker

He okay so there's one side of it in that supplements don't need to be FDA approved in the United States before sale, but the FDA so this is what's kind of corrupt about it. There's a lot of supplements that have tremendous benefits with very few side effects but because they threaten mainstream pharmaceuticals, they are demonized.

Dana Blouin

Give me an example. Fight a draw.

Unknown Speaker

What What is spider draws? laxogenin? Okay, so laxogenin is the is the plant and the FDA just put it on an advisory list. Okay, and you you can't even make a video about it. You can't I mean, it is super censored. And what is that? Like? Why what there has never been a single side effect. What does it do? Yeah, it just builds it's a natural plant extract that X has some anabolic activity in the muscle,

Mike Somerville

which is a little bit bigger build muscle.

Unknown Speaker

Okay. Mild. Okay,

Dana Blouin

so there are no side effects. There's research on this.

Unknown Speaker

Yes. Yeah, there's there's studies on it. Yeah,

Dana Blouin

it has none have found side effects. I haven't

Unknown Speaker

found anything with any side. Okay. Yeah.

Dana Blouin

So So why did the FDA say they put it on the advisory list? They won't

Unknown Speaker

they don't even they don't even say they don't even say what danger harm is but even if they did say they they don't tell the truth. Like for example, they said sarms deliver toxic No, I've done so many studies mega dosing my body with 30 times the dosage and tested my liver with no toxicity. Okay.

Unknown Speaker

Is there another Tony huge because for example, you doing it? That's one thing right? But is there another Tony who like 10 year review version of of this, like a I did it as on a huge plus

Unknown Speaker

the others. There's another study that just came out with showing no liver toxicity just recently, there's like a medical study. Yeah. So I know what happened behind the scenes inside the FDA where they were they thought they could justify it saying it's liver toxic in order to try to ban these supplements. Yeah, and it's completely corrupt. So and the problem is that the FDA only has to say something and it becomes law. That's the ways the laws are written. The FDA doesn't have to actually even give a reason it just says oh, this supplements so

Unknown Speaker

they don't have to prove it with scientific reasons. We

Unknown Speaker

all know what happens is a pharmaceutical company says up and says we got competition. There's this natural plant ingredient. We think it's gonna threaten our sales shut it down.

Dana Blouin

So why wouldn't the pharmaceutical company then just say, Alright, let me spend 1,000,002 million dollars doing some research we'll patent something around this Yes, they do as the patent laws in the US are fucking insane.

Unknown Speaker

They do. And And usually, it's not until they figure out

Dana Blouin

so why would they Why would they call the FDA to ban the drug but then also patent something around it if it's been banned?

Unknown Speaker

Because once they get FDA approval, they can sell it as a prescription they're banning it for for any competition to sell it for any supplement, like over the counter. Yeah, it's gonna be they want you to have to buy their prescription and that's the only way you can get it and that's the monopoly

Dana Blouin

that can you buy that drug in Thailand?

Unknown Speaker

You can still buy it in the US it's not illegal. This is the funny thing there. In order to make it illegal, they'd have to actually go through a legal process. So now they have a way of of taking things off the market reduce they just schedule it yet but that's a legal process is it so that requires some analysis some scientific evidence,

Unknown Speaker

so is it

Dana Blouin

How did marijuana become like a schedule one drug?

Unknown Speaker

Yeah, they had to go through a process to try to prove that it's all fun as

Dana Blouin

it should never need to be will arrest more black people.

Unknown Speaker

Yeah, that's totally corrupt. steroids shouldn't have even be steroids don't even fit the requirements for being scheduled. Well,

Dana Blouin

actually, I remember reading something that wasn't there an advisor

Unknown Speaker

Joe Biden was the one who was part of making steroids illegal.

Dana Blouin

Wasn't there an advisor to the to the FDA, that said, there's no reason to schedule steroids. And there

Unknown Speaker

was a lot of people when that was happening and this was censorship. It was happening that image a lot of people that came out and said whoa, you know, you have specific legal requirements to schedule a drug steroids don't fit this legal requirements. And Biden was one of the ones that worked did the workaround

Dana Blouin

so you actually so I remember now is the FDA recommended that steroids not be a scheduled drug in like I think Congress or whatever voted on

Unknown Speaker

that was when I was a Hulk Hogan investment man were getting called up and all that shit.

Dana Blouin

I'll call console. Natty Bro. Bro. All 75 year old

Mike Somerville

organic man. So as a supplement owner, right you are you constantly doing it like every three, four years. You got to come up with a new one because it's gonna get slammed out.

Unknown Speaker

It's unbelievable. The content